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* Migrating from emacs 20 to 21
@ 2003-02-20  5:03 Daryl Sayers
  2003-02-20  7:56 ` Kai Großjohann
                   ` (4 more replies)
  0 siblings, 5 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Daryl Sayers @ 2003-02-20  5:03 UTC (permalink / raw)



I have built up the courage to move from emacs 20.7 to
Emacs 21.2.2 (i386--freebsd, X tookit, Xaw3d scroll bars)

As I am a very poor at lisp I have struck some trouble. Here are a few
problems:

. The new left and right wrap margins (?) that display the line wrap char
  etc are black on my screen. I have looked everywhere to try and change
  this to a different color. I can't find an Xresource or a piece of lisp
  code to do this.

. While we are at it, I tried to change the color of the scroll bars. I
  read about the new scroll-bar faces but could not make it work.

. I use rmail for my mail. I used to use the mime-setup.el from
  MORIOKA Tomohiko and I was happy with this. I needed to remove this from
  my .emacs to get emacs21 to run. Reading the NEWS I see that 21 has inbuilt
  mime decoding, but how do I use it.

. When starting I use 'emacs -geometry 80x48', I see the window draw and then
  it resizes to a smaller size before completion. I found the problem is when
  I turn off 'tool-bar-mode' It seems the window dimensions take into account
  the tool-bar and then it readjusts. Any way of getting round this.

Where can I get information on how to set up faces. I would like to
redo the colors in the gnus article view mode.

-- 
Daryl Sayers
Corinthian Engineering                         Ph: (02) 9906 7866
Suite 19, 401 Pacific Hwy                     Fax: (02) 9906 1556
Artarmon, NSW, 2064                         email: daryl@ci.com.au
Australia                                     www: http://www.cordoors.com.au

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* Re: Migrating from emacs 20 to 21
  2003-02-20  5:03 Migrating from emacs 20 to 21 Daryl Sayers
@ 2003-02-20  7:56 ` Kai Großjohann
  2003-02-20  9:40 ` Oliver Scholz
                   ` (3 subsequent siblings)
  4 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Kai Großjohann @ 2003-02-20  7:56 UTC (permalink / raw)


Daryl Sayers <daryl@mippet.ci.com.au> writes:

> . The new left and right wrap margins (?) that display the line wrap char
>   etc are black on my screen. I have looked everywhere to try and change
>   this to a different color. I can't find an Xresource or a piece of lisp
>   code to do this.

The NEWS file calls them fringes.
-- 
A preposition is not a good thing to end a sentence with.

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* Re: Migrating from emacs 20 to 21
  2003-02-20  5:03 Migrating from emacs 20 to 21 Daryl Sayers
  2003-02-20  7:56 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2003-02-20  9:40 ` Oliver Scholz
  2003-02-20  9:47 ` Reiner Steib
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  4 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Oliver Scholz @ 2003-02-20  9:40 UTC (permalink / raw)


Daryl Sayers <daryl@mippet.ci.com.au> writes:

[...]
> . When starting I use 'emacs -geometry 80x48', I see the window draw and then
>   it resizes to a smaller size before completion. I found the problem is when
>   I turn off 'tool-bar-mode' It seems the window dimensions take into account
>   the tool-bar and then it readjusts. Any way of getting round this.
[...]

IIRC the remedy here is to turn the tool bar off in the .Xdefaults or
.Xresources.  I don't have an X at the moment, but I believe the
syntax is:

Emacs.toolBar: 0

(You can read about this in the Emacs manual under the index entry
"resources".)

    Oliver
-- 
2 Ventôse an 211 de la Révolution
Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité!

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* Re: Migrating from emacs 20 to 21
  2003-02-20  5:03 Migrating from emacs 20 to 21 Daryl Sayers
  2003-02-20  7:56 ` Kai Großjohann
  2003-02-20  9:40 ` Oliver Scholz
@ 2003-02-20  9:47 ` Reiner Steib
  2003-02-20  9:53 ` David Kastrup
  2003-02-20 11:01 ` gebser
  4 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Reiner Steib @ 2003-02-20  9:47 UTC (permalink / raw)


On Thu, Feb 20 2003, Daryl Sayers wrote:

> . When starting I use 'emacs -geometry 80x48', I see the window draw and then
>   it resizes to a smaller size before completion. I found the problem is when
>   I turn off 'tool-bar-mode' It seems the window dimensions take into account
>   the tool-bar and then it readjusts. Any way of getting round this.

Set "Emacs.toolBar: False" in your ~/.Xresources (or however it's
called on FreeBSD) file.  Then no tool-bar appears at all and you
should get the expected geometry.

Bye, Reiner.
-- 
       ,,,
      (o o)
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* Re: Migrating from emacs 20 to 21
  2003-02-20  5:03 Migrating from emacs 20 to 21 Daryl Sayers
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2003-02-20  9:47 ` Reiner Steib
@ 2003-02-20  9:53 ` David Kastrup
  2003-02-20 11:01 ` gebser
  4 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: David Kastrup @ 2003-02-20  9:53 UTC (permalink / raw)


Daryl Sayers <daryl@mippet.ci.com.au> writes:

> I have built up the courage to move from emacs 20.7 to
> Emacs 21.2.2 (i386--freebsd, X tookit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
> 
> As I am a very poor at lisp I have struck some trouble. Here are a few
> problems:
> 
> . The new left and right wrap margins (?) that display the line wrap char
>   etc are black on my screen. I have looked everywhere to try and change
>   this to a different color. I can't find an Xresource or a piece of lisp
>   code to do this.
> 
> . While we are at it, I tried to change the color of the scroll bars. I
>   read about the new scroll-bar faces but could not make it work.
> 
> . When starting I use 'emacs -geometry 80x48', I see the window draw and then
>   it resizes to a smaller size before completion. I found the problem is when
>   I turn off 'tool-bar-mode' It seems the window dimensions take into account
>   the tool-bar and then it readjusts. Any way of getting round this.

New features are documented and described with C-h N (I believe).
Turn off the toolbar in your X resources, then you don't get resizing.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

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* Re: Migrating from emacs 20 to 21
  2003-02-20  5:03 Migrating from emacs 20 to 21 Daryl Sayers
                   ` (3 preceding siblings ...)
  2003-02-20  9:53 ` David Kastrup
@ 2003-02-20 11:01 ` gebser
  4 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: gebser @ 2003-02-20 11:01 UTC (permalink / raw)



Can't help with all the questions, but I've done the last.

Daryl Sayers at 16:03 (UTC+1100) on 20 Feb 2003 said:

= 
= I have built up the courage to move from emacs 20.7 to
= Emacs 21.2.2 (i386--freebsd, X tookit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
= 
= ...
= 
= Where can I get information on how to set up faces. I would like to
= redo the colors in the gnus article view mode.

M-x customize-face

hth,
ken

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