I use http://emacsformacosx.com/ Matt McClure http://matthewlmcclure.com http://www.mapmyfitness.com/profile/matthewlmcclure On Jun 6, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Kim Young wrote: hello, I go to http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/emacs/ to download 23.4 for os x lion but the only install documentation I can see is for windows. Are there docs for os x install somewhere? I am a total unix/emacs/programing newbee. John "Kim" Young 1663 71st Street Brooklyn, NY 11204 (917) 620-5562 kimyoung@mac.com