From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Make Super key work in console Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 05:32:23 +0200 Message-ID: <83v9amxfi0.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8735y06nap.fsf@zoho.eu> <87tuqg585j.fsf_-_@zoho.eu> <87pn12zbgc.fsf_-_@zoho.eu> <875z2twank.fsf@zoho.eu> <83h7m6zpr5.fsf@gnu.org> <837dn2zm29.fsf@gnu.org> <8335xqzjnf.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6564"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 21 04:33:00 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lDfUS-0001cE-QK for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 04:33:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36206 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDfUR-0007rM-Se for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 22:32:59 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57968) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDfU7-0007qH-6H for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 22:32:39 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55917) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDfU6-000879-Jn; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 22:32:38 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4439 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lDfU6-0003KJ-2e; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 22:32:38 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Sat, 20 Feb 2021 16:14:06 -0500) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:128160 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2021 16:14:06 -0500 > > >> They should have used "ESC " for the meta key so you don't > >> get conflicts like `M-O` conflicting with escape sequences that start > >> with `ESC O`. > > By "they" you mean Emacs? > > No, I'm talking about the terminal (emulators). Then I don't understand how this could be possible. > > Because AFAIK it was Emacs which started translating "ESC KEY" to > > Meta-KEY. > > And just as for `C-x @ `, this is acceptable for Emacs where it's > more important to make sure the sequence is short, for the convenience > of the user, even if it comes at the cost of introducing some > occasional conflicts. > For terminal emulators there's no such tradeoff to make. They wanted to support Emacs and software that adopted the Emacs keybindings (such as Readline, Bash, etc.).