From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: why are files like tramp-loaddefs.el and cl-loaddefs.el natively compiled on each startup? Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2023 20:45:17 +0200 Message-ID: <83v8lfo8ci.fsf@gnu.org> References: <877cxxh5z1.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87358job2a.fsf@metapensiero.it> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8740"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 09 19:45:26 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pEx9C-00023Q-8U for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2023 19:45:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pEx8f-0004A1-IZ; Mon, 09 Jan 2023 13:44:53 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pEx8e-00047i-AD for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2023 13:44:52 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pEx8e-0002xp-12 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2023 13:44:52 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=xX7BnqzXR+N+L/idSe8nHCvB/7wXJ8N/uOee0F79JaM=; b=c3m/RQIDhxbu KrOf2ZO5ApqdWkfDwMaEutV8JD7L5Uag3SIhbUBUSt8Qmz4H00vfwgmC8ca+f7hvm8gUQZqh9X4ni lEsgNyX1RR0R8/o6dErmt0JgM6fl0IqXLg0ZyEoUha4umGCuKM7yZTaaXeVhovFtYfycgSEuIuIlK S0O2C07jbyNLyXHJc8Pbjj02kq9vOXZI2znVG+46MgX8w1VO4WcNEUney10dOC6aLZBghhAT7HGri QUdNigvzyYvBBWQG4d4eytEP9kK++HUXEHUmZaiE9debC/BxIHuSoXx7Zj+6Y4zt61ClYFN5pHtHi Gi/eIFFB+1j1D9KIr5qWjQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pEx8d-0006ug-7L for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2023 13:44:51 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87358job2a.fsf@metapensiero.it> (message from Lele Gaifax on Mon, 09 Jan 2023 18:46:37 +0100) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:142171 Archived-At: > From: Lele Gaifax > Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2023 18:46:37 +0100 > > Emanuel Berg writes: > > > Why are files like tramp-loaddefs.el and cl-loaddefs.el > > natively compiled on each startup? > > > > They change all the time? > > > > Why? > > I'm experiencing the same thing, in several different "setups" > (doom-emacs and my own home-made configuration), with both GNU/Emacs 29 > and master: every time I launch a new Emacs, I see the following in the > *Async-native-compile-log* buffer: > > Compiling /usr/local/share/emacs/30.0.50/lisp/net/tramp-loaddefs.el.gz... > uncompressing tramp-loaddefs.el.gz... > uncompressing tramp-loaddefs.el.gz...done > Compiling /usr/local/share/emacs/30.0.50/lisp/emacs-lisp/cl-loaddefs.el.gz... > uncompressing cl-loaddefs.el.gz... > uncompressing cl-loaddefs.el.gz...done > Compilation finished. > Compilation finished. They are marked with no-native-compile:t, so Emacs isn't actually compiling them. FWIW, I don't see those messages when I start Emacs.