From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs 28: bitmap fonts, vector font character spacing Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2023 19:14:38 +0300 Message-ID: <83ttttqob5.fsf@gnu.org> References: <871qgx72h7.fsf@drac> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35000"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 24 18:14:05 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qNyCD-0008qM-Ju for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 24 Jul 2023 18:14:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qNyC4-0007OI-LK; Mon, 24 Jul 2023 12:13:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qNyC3-0007O9-HK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jul 2023 12:13:55 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qNyC1-0006Do-U2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jul 2023 12:13:55 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=XPBZk8iwCzjzV2OBshwkctYHMzkLFTURxrySS6NG0DU=; b=TjgLNHqZt6YfvCDOgtzT cwLc9HlT+IrbZeidrdFhmOZtWVcbeyC4zJpn/oB5bjfpZW3my3jHque21419KeFKXMJtcai/O1zRB JbO/G1gzLnEHsIrWqZGVUL3LHjEECdUBUsFPXNtsryVavtd7QTE/PB7KU4uzAz8HxqBeB1pENrpIC 1sw27KkcX8woxVNpBenEykMWDSybst1qh1kBQ9HaZw8nvJ+PqiDbbswCS0LoGPViN4B7EGAlJHet8 YgAEeQD25zVqVHU5ixFkTJubbWuzRlphbyBNmqubiNQ9qphpPcN045bHGzixSQTWTUmWcctWrTVEo iAgI5GyKjtRIzw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qNyC1-0005KS-D9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jul 2023 12:13:53 -0400 In-Reply-To: <871qgx72h7.fsf@drac> (message from Christoph Groth on Mon, 24 Jul 2023 17:28:52 +0200) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:144421 Archived-At: > From: Christoph Groth > Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2023 17:28:52 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > Basically, Cairo dropped support for bitmap fonts. So I'd expect them > > not to work at all in an Emacs built with Cairo. > > Thanks for the quick clarification! Perhaps that NEWS entry could be > reformulated to be more categorical? “Some problems” sounded to me like > there could be ways to work around the problem, and I wasted too much > time trying to find one. (As strange as it sounds, after staring at > Terminus for a couple of hours on most days for many years I grew > attached to it...) We actually said that, but in NEWS shipped with Emacs 27: ** The configure option '--with-cairo' is no longer experimental. This builds Emacs with Cairo drawing, and supports built-in printing when Emacs is built with GTK+. Some severe bugs in this build were fixed, and we can therefore offer this to users without caveats. Note that building with Cairo enabled results in using Pango instead of libXft for font support, and that Pango 1.44 has removed support for bitmapped fonts.