From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Do we want more choice? (was Bookmark the end of file?) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:52:03 +0300 Message-ID: <83sic4cc8c.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87vbh8hlns.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl> <1b751175-4544-44e7-bbcd-d5a01bf92624@default> <39b824d1-e8d2-4bf7-a983-c6cefff83dad@googlegroups.com> <291260f3-daa1-4ab4-8840-2ee9b9f164ec@default> <20150413071741.GA22660@tuxteam.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1428936765 20754 80.91.229.3 (13 Apr 2015 14:52:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 14:52:45 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 13 16:52:38 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Yhfj2-0001yh-T9 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 16:52:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52239 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yhfj2-0007qq-5g for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 10:52:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33248) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yhfir-0007qZ-7W for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 10:52:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yhfin-00080s-O3 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 10:52:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout29.012.net.il ([80.179.55.185]:38870) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yhfin-00080g-Fj for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 10:52:21 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout29.012.net.il by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NMR00I002G2BQ00@mtaout29.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:49:51 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NMR00E9C2J3UL40@mtaout29.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:49:51 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <20150413071741.GA22660@tuxteam.de> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.185 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:103690 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 09:17:42 +0200 > From: > Cc: Rusi , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > > More choice is *always* better. The hard part is presenting this > choice to the user in a way it doesn't overwhelm her/him. > > I have the strong suspicion that the "less choice is good" movement > we are seeing stems from being too lazy (or at a loss) wrt thinking > hard about how to guide the user through a rich set of choices. The > latter would be, in my view, the right thing to do. Volunteers are welcome to come aboard and work on the Emacs manuals and doc strings to make all this happen. If the number of people who work on documentation increases significantly, it's quite probable that the Emacs maintainers will change their views about "less choice is good" issue. Thanks in advance.