From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Learning "my emacs" from the start (was: Generating a listing of all symbols) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 21:51:17 +0300 Message-ID: <83ppkbeswq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <3defe928-5d2e-4d3b-bc26-f595f275f840@googlegroups.com> <19937386-3859-46d4-9677-ed2f1b8c5698@googlegroups.com> <20140420171311.GA27790@hysteria.proulx.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1398019921 14635 80.91.229.3 (20 Apr 2014 18:52:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 18:52:01 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 20 20:51:54 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WbwqH-0001ct-V3 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 20:51:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46404 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WbwqH-0005XH-IR for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 14:51:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60491) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wbwq1-0005Ww-AP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 14:51:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wbwpt-00048j-Sm for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 14:51:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:33732) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wbwpt-00047K-Km for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 14:51:29 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N4C00500EQS9400@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 21:51:28 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N4C004UYF1SL3A0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 21:51:28 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <20140420171311.GA27790@hysteria.proulx.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:97273 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 11:13:12 -0600 > From: Bob Proulx > > Rusi wrote: > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > One significant advantage of using the standard Emacs bindings is that > > > your muscle memory will still be applicable when you need to work on > > > someone else's machine, or even explain to someone else how to solve a > > > problem in their Emacs. This isn't something to dismiss easily in the > > > long run. > > One problem is that the standard emacs keys appear to be changing. I > like the traditional emacs keys. But many people prefer CUA mode. > CUA mode drives me crazy. Much of my .emacs file is to change things > back to traditional settings. The standard keybindings are changing (slowly) to be more friendly to newcomers. We the veteran users count less, since we already know how to customize Emacs to behave like we are used to.