From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: member returns list Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 10:40:00 +0300 Message-ID: <83oah82ii7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87bndfauey.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87wpw0e58f.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> <87si6n822t.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87oaha9a64.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87twr1pycd.fsf@debian.uxu> <87zj0s5yc8.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1442043632 14100 80.91.229.3 (12 Sep 2015 07:40:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 07:40:32 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 12 09:40:23 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZafQ6-00038k-EC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2015 09:40:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59811 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZafQ5-00028q-Li for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2015 03:40:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45190) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZafPv-00027e-1n for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2015 03:40:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZafPr-0003W2-RD for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2015 03:40:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout28.012.net.il ([80.179.55.184]:48931) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZafPr-0003TL-KO for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2015 03:40:07 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout28.012.net.il by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NUJ00800ZK2VN00@mtaout28.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2015 10:39:51 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NUJ00PBJZYF6T90@mtaout28.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2015 10:39:51 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87zj0s5yc8.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.184 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:107175 Archived-At: > From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" > Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 01:29:43 +0200 > > Imagine if the bitmap displays were only used on high end workstations > for scientific data representation, and in low-end PC for games. > > Most PC would still work with text screens. Which would be a Good Thing, IMO, since what we have now is beyond ridiculous: 99.99% of our CPU power is engaged in moving pixels on the screen from here to there. That's why we have generations of programmers who are blissfully unaware of the tremendous power of the current CPUs: all they have before their eyes is how long it takes MS Word to redraw its screen. On my daytime job I bump into those guys every day: they are unable to imagine how much processing could be done in 1 sec, and therefore vastly underestimate the performance of data processing software they need to design and implement. Ask them how did people fly to the Moon with a 1 MIPS CPU, and they will tell you it's impossible.