* File without a name appears in a dired buffer
@ 2016-06-07 7:57 Davin Pearson
2016-06-07 14:45 ` Barry Margolin
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From: Davin Pearson @ 2016-06-07 7:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Here is a pasting of my ABBA folder. Note the spurious line at the top of the file. In other dired buffers more than one of these lines appears. The command
rm ""
doesn't remove the file, instead it complains about a non-existent file: `'
no such file or directory.
c:/Downloads/ABBA Discography [24 96]:
total used in directory 1 available 57327936
drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 05-19 06:52 <--- here
drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 05-19 06:52 .
drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 06-07 06:38 ..
drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 06-02 03:00 1973 Ring Ring
drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 2015-11-22 1974 Waterloo
drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 2015-11-22 1975 ABBA
drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 2015-11-22 1976 All About ABBA
drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 2015-11-22 1976 Arrival
drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 2015-11-22 1977 The Album
drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 2015-11-22 1979 Voulez-Vous
drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 2015-11-22 1980 Super Trouper
drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 2015-11-22 1981 The Visitors
drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 2015-11-19 Pictures
-rw-rw-rw- 1 Davin Pearson None 359 06-02 03:02 a.wav
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* Re: File without a name appears in a dired buffer
2016-06-07 7:57 File without a name appears in a dired buffer Davin Pearson
@ 2016-06-07 14:45 ` Barry Margolin
2016-06-07 15:16 ` Yuri Khan
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2016-06-07 15:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Barry Margolin @ 2016-06-07 14:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
In article <a36c4b30-e40e-46e3-82c7-4f40c2025634@googlegroups.com>,
Davin Pearson <davin.pearson@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here is a pasting of my ABBA folder. Note the spurious line at the top of
> the file. In other dired buffers more than one of these lines appears. The
> command
>
> rm ""
>
> doesn't remove the file, instead it complains about a non-existent file: `'
> no such file or directory.
It's a directory, not a file. And the name is probably some number of
spaces. Use
mv " "* bettername
to rename it.
>
> c:/Downloads/ABBA Discography [24 96]:
> total used in directory 1 available 57327936
> drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 05-19 06:52 <--- here
> drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 05-19 06:52 .
> drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 06-07 06:38 ..
> drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 06-02 03:00 1973 Ring Ring
> drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 2015-11-22 1974 Waterloo
> drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 2015-11-22 1975 ABBA
> drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 2015-11-22 1976 All About
> ABBA
> drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 2015-11-22 1976 Arrival
> drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 2015-11-22 1977 The Album
> drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 2015-11-22 1979
> Voulez-Vous
> drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 2015-11-22 1980 Super
> Trouper
> drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 2015-11-22 1981 The
> Visitors
> drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 2015-11-19 Pictures
> -rw-rw-rw- 1 Davin Pearson None 359 06-02 03:02 a.wav
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Arlington, MA
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* Re: File without a name appears in a dired buffer
2016-06-07 14:45 ` Barry Margolin
@ 2016-06-07 15:16 ` Yuri Khan
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From: Yuri Khan @ 2016-06-07 15:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Barry Margolin; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 8:45 PM, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> It's a directory, not a file. And the name is probably some number of
> spaces.
That’s unlikely, seeing as the path includes a drive letter. Windows
does not easily allow space-only names.
>> c:/Downloads/ABBA Discography [24 96]:
>> total used in directory 1 available 57327936
>> drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 05-19 06:52 <--- here
>> drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 05-19 06:52 .
@Davin: What does “dir” in plain old CMD say about this directory? If
you use Cygwin or MSYS, what does their “ls -al” say?
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* Re: File without a name appears in a dired buffer
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@ 2016-06-07 23:14 ` Davin Pearson
2016-06-08 9:17 ` Yuri Khan
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From: Davin Pearson @ 2016-06-07 23:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Here is what CMD says: I am using cygwin 64 bit. Note how the empty
file name does not occur, it only appears inside Emacs version 23.1.1:
C:\Downloads\ABBA Discography [24 96]>ls -al
total 22437
drwxrwxrwx+ 1 Administrators Administrators 0 May 19 06:52 .
drwxrwxrwx+ 1 Administrators Administrators 0 Jun 7 06:38 ..
drwxrwxrwx+ 1 Administrators Administrators 0 Jun 2 03:00 '1973 Ring Ring'
drwxrwxrwx+ 1 Administrators Administrators 0 Nov 22 2015 '1974 Waterloo'
drwxrwxrwx+ 1 Administrators Administrators 0 Nov 22 2015 '1975 ABBA'
drwxrwxrwx+ 1 Administrators Administrators 0 Nov 22 2015 '1976 All About ABBA'
drwxrwxrwx+ 1 Administrators Administrators 0 Nov 22 2015 '1976 Arrival'
drwxrwxrwx+ 1 Administrators Administrators 0 Nov 22 2015 '1977 The Album'
drwxrwxrwx+ 1 Administrators Administrators 0 Nov 22 2015 '1979 Voulez-Vous'
drwxrwxrwx+ 1 Administrators Administrators 0 Nov 22 2015 '1980 Super Trouper'
drwxrwxrwx+ 1 Administrators Administrators 0 Nov 22 2015 '1981 The Visitors'
-rwxrwxrwx+ 1 Administrators Administrators 22873347 Nov 19 2015 'ABBA. '$'\320\236\320\277\320\270\321\201\320\260\320\275\320\270\320\265'' '$'\320\277\321\200\320\265\320\267\320\265\320\275\321\202\320\260\321\206\320\270\320\270''..pdf'
drwxrwxrwx+ 1 Administrators Administrators 0 Nov 19 2015 Pictures
-rwxrwxrwx 1 Davin Pearson None 359 Jun 2 03:02 a.wav
On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 3:17:18 AM UTC+12, Yuri Khan wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 8:45 PM, Barry Margolin <barmar at alum dot mit dot edu> wrote:
>
> > It's a directory, not a file. And the name is probably some number of
> > spaces.
>
> That’s unlikely, seeing as the path includes a drive letter. Windows
> does not easily allow space-only names.
>
> >> c:/Downloads/ABBA Discography [24 96]:
> >> total used in directory 1 available 57327936
> >> drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 05-19 06:52 <--- here
> >> drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 05-19 06:52 .
>
>
> @Davin: What does “dir” in plain old CMD say about this directory? If
> you use Cygwin or MSYS, what does their “ls -al” say?
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* Re: File without a name appears in a dired buffer
2016-06-07 23:14 ` Davin Pearson
@ 2016-06-08 9:17 ` Yuri Khan
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From: Yuri Khan @ 2016-06-08 9:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Davin Pearson; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 5:14 AM, Davin Pearson <davin.pearson@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here is what CMD says: I am using cygwin 64 bit. Note how the empty
> file name does not occur, it only appears inside Emacs version 23.1.1:
However, I notice this suspicious entry which does not appear in your
Emacs listing above:
> -rwxrwxrwx+ 1 Administrators Administrators 22873347 Nov 19 2015 'ABBA. '$'\320\236\320\277\320\270\321\201\320\260\320\275\320\270\320\265'' '$'\320\277\321\200\320\265\320\267\320\265\320\275\321\202\320\260\321\206\320\270\320\270''..pdf'
The date and mode don’t match, though.
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* Re: File without a name appears in a dired buffer
2016-06-07 7:57 File without a name appears in a dired buffer Davin Pearson
2016-06-07 14:45 ` Barry Margolin
@ 2016-06-07 15:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2016-06-07 15:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 00:57:52 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Davin Pearson <davin.pearson@gmail.com>
>
> Here is a pasting of my ABBA folder. Note the spurious line at the top of the file. In other dired buffers more than one of these lines appears. The command
>
> rm ""
>
> doesn't remove the file, instead it complains about a non-existent file: `'
> no such file or directory.
>
> c:/Downloads/ABBA Discography [24 96]:
> total used in directory 1 available 57327936
> drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 05-19 06:52 <--- here
What version of Emacs is that?
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2016-06-08 2:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Davin Pearson @ 2016-06-07 23:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 3:01:42 AM UTC+12, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 00:57:52 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Davin Pearson <davin dot pearson at gmail dot com>
> >
> > Here is a pasting of my ABBA folder. Note the spurious line at the top of the file. In other dired buffers more than one of these lines appears. The command
> >
> > rm ""
> >
> > doesn't remove the file, instead it complains about a non-existent file: `'
> > no such file or directory.
> >
> > c:/Downloads/ABBA Discography [24 96]:
> > total used in directory 1 available 57327936
> > drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 05-19 06:52 <--- here
>
> What version of Emacs is that?
23.1.1
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* Re: File without a name appears in a dired buffer
2016-06-07 23:00 ` Davin Pearson
@ 2016-06-08 2:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2016-06-08 2:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 16:00:40 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Davin Pearson <davin.pearson@gmail.com>
>
> > > c:/Downloads/ABBA Discography [24 96]:
> > > total used in directory 1 available 57327936
> > > drwxrwxrwx 1 Administrators Administrators 0 05-19 06:52 <--- here
> >
> > What version of Emacs is that?
>
> 23.1.1
Then I suggest to upgrade to at least Emacs 24.4. Your problem is due
to a file name which cannot be displayed using characters from the
current system codepage, so it shows the 8+3 alias for such file
names, and in your case the short alias appears to be empty. Emacs
24.4 lifts that limitation, so you should see the full file name in
that case.
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@ 2016-06-08 3:06 ` Davin Pearson
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From: Davin Pearson @ 2016-06-08 3:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 2:47:55 PM UTC+12, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> Then I suggest to upgrade to at least Emacs 24.4. Your problem is due
> to a file name which cannot be displayed using characters from the
> current system codepage, so it shows the 8+3 alias for such file
> names, and in your case the short alias appears to be empty. Emacs
> 24.4 lifts that limitation, so you should see the full file name in
> that case.
Thanks for the tip. I will do shortly.
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