From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs freezes every now and then on my windows 7 pc Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 17:27:52 +0300 Message-ID: <83k3xgaw47.fsf@gnu.org> References: <2f00df9a-2b69-46e0-b3df-e09ca4b0a295@googlegroups.com> <836291caqf.fsf@gnu.org> <818vdx0x1h.fsf@gmail.com> <1B758CD9545840F1A7FA3D6786813465@us.oracle.com> <831ujocwiu.fsf@gnu.org> <6056134BD3254EDFA2BCD19B4F8E0790@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1344004094 15997 80.91.229.3 (3 Aug 2012 14:28:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 14:28:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, kjambunathan@gmail.com To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 03 16:28:13 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SxIrL-0003L5-TL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 16:28:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43517 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SxIrL-0003ND-5h for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 10:28:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47146) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SxIrB-0003M5-HV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 10:28:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SxIr9-0005yJ-FJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 10:28:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:34441) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SxIr9-0005xy-73 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 10:27:59 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0M8600G00NXEOZ00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 17:27:57 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0M8600G2YO6LRW10@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 17:27:57 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <6056134BD3254EDFA2BCD19B4F8E0790@us.oracle.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:86176 Archived-At: > From: "Drew Adams" > Cc: , > Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 07:10:09 -0700 > > > > Each week I hope for a new Windows build that works enough > > > to check the fix for some bug I filed for a previous build. > > > But in some cases I have not been able to check fixes > > > because of new bugs (including crashes). And the Windows > > > builds are no longer done weekly, it seems, which aggravates > > > this problem. > > > > Again, this is expected. > > No, this degree of volatility is not expected, if expectation is based on past > experience. Maybe so, but then you need to adapt your expectations to the changing reality. > And the matter has nothing to do with whether someone builds Emacs personally or > uses a binary built by someone else. Who builds Emacs is irrelevant here. It is relevant, because once a fix is committed, people who build themselves can rebuild and have a stable binary. > And the more frequently prebuilt Windows binaries are provided, the easier and > quicker are the reporting and debugging of bugs. That's an obvious benefit. > Costs include the effort to build and post the binaries, of course. Volunteers to provide daily snapshots are welcome.