From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Keystroke inconsistencies between GUI and -nw emacs? Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 21:01:10 +0300 Message-ID: <83ioyykjo9.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20130821154911.1815b476@Yoda> <20130821183836.73ec49fc@Yoda> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1377108094 8474 80.91.229.3 (21 Aug 2013 18:01:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 18:01:34 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 21 20:01:36 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VCCit-00088e-WD for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 20:01:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55828 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VCCit-0001eD-Im for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:01:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35851) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VCCid-0001dF-Cd for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:01:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VCCiW-0002HV-3e for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:01:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:49874) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VCCiV-0002HG-SP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:01:12 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MRW00F0079R7M00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 21:01:10 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MRW00FP17DX3C90@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 21:01:10 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <20130821183836.73ec49fc@Yoda> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.175 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:93038 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 18:38:36 +0100 > From: Marko Vojinovic > > In the GUI the F10 opens the GUI menu, which is ok. The only thing I > was surprised about is that the GUI menu is not keystroke-equivalent to > the tmm-menubar. The GUI menu is in most cases implemented in the toolkit used by Emacs, not in Emacs itself. So the shortcut keys that control the GUI menu are the keys defined by the toolkit. Emacs cannot redefine them, at least not easily (and if it did, users might complain, since they are used to what the toolkit does).