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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Why does using aset sometimes output raw bytes?
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 07:59:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83in013orr.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvk1ki2yf1.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.help@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Sun, 09 Dec 2018 16:20:59 -0500)

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2018 16:20:59 -0500
> 
> >> It's not the implementation, but the semantics of unibyte/multibyte
> >> strings presumes that the difference doesn't matter much for ASCII-only
> >> strings, which is mostly true but isn't true in the case of `aset`.
> > The same is true about concat, btw.
> 
> I think it's less severe (`aset` can end up changing (by side-effect)
> a unibyte string to multibyte, i.e. changing the nature of the object,
> which I believe is the only time we do something like that), but yes
> similar problems appear elsewhere (hence the "mostly" above).

I'm not sure the "by side effect" part is an important distinction for
users, they might be surprised anyway.  For example:

  (let ((s1 "abcd")
	(s2 "абвг"))
    (message "s1: %s concat: %s"
	     (multibyte-string-p s1)
	     (multibyte-string-p (concat s1 s2))))
    => s1: nil concat: t

Some will say that this "converts" a unibyte string s1 to a multibyte
one just because it was concatenated.

People should always keep these gotchas in mind when working with
strings.



  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-10  5:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-09 15:16 Why does using aset sometimes output raw bytes? Stephen Berman
2018-12-09 15:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-09 15:46   ` Stephen Berman
2018-12-09 15:56     ` Stephen Berman
2018-12-09 17:12     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-09 17:32       ` Stephen Berman
2018-12-09 17:47         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-09 18:50           ` Stephen Berman
2018-12-09 18:55             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-09 17:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-12-09 17:20   ` Stephen Berman
2018-12-09 19:20     ` Stefan Monnier
2018-12-09 20:23       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-12-09 21:20         ` Stefan Monnier
2018-12-10  5:59           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2018-12-10 13:56             ` Stefan Monnier
2018-12-09 20:43       ` Stephen Berman

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