Re: Debunking Emacs merits over GUI - Re: package for Email

[Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>]

> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2023 17:28:21 +0300
> From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> 
> > Forgive me my bluntness, but that's baloney!  Emacs-based email
> > clients are very adequate, and some of them much more than just
> > adequate.  I'm surprised to even see this in an Emacs forum, let alone
> > coming from such a veteran Emacs user.
> > 
> > I challenge you to post a list of tasks people do with email clients
> > that Emacs-based MUA don't support.
> 
> OK I understand that you love Emacs, as you are the one making it.
> 
> I also love some girls, but I can't recommend them to others.

Nice method of technical argument, congratulations!

> List of tasks people do with email clients that Emacs-based MUA don't support:
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Let us compare it from Thunderbid:
> 
> Thunderbird Features — Thunderbird:
> https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/features/
> 
> 1. Mail Account Setup Wizard (IMHO all accounts should be specified
>    straight in main configuration, but programs in packages each ask
>    for program specific settings)
> 2. One-click Address Book (most important lack of feature in Emacs,
>    huge subject)
> 3. Attachment Reminder
> 4. Notifications of e-mails
> 5. Quick Filter
> 6. Search tools (indexing is there in Emacs, but is different concept) this
>    refers to straight search without user thinking about indexing)
> 7. Robust privacy (this is included in Emacs only concidentally and due to lack of
>    features)
> 8. Phishing Protection
> 9. Automated Update (yes, why should user bother about it?)
> 10. Cutting Out the Junk
> 11. Sharing of mail folders
> 12. Searching messages on IMAP server
> 13. Synchronization of folders (Emacs uses only external and difficult
>     to setup command line tools, this is huge subject)
> 14. Automated deletion of IMAP message by user's policy
> 15. Selection of IMAP folders to be searched or not (IMAP offers fast search)
> 16. Integrated encrypted XMPP chat (jabber.el does not support OMEMO
>     yet, I offer US $100 for that.)
> 17. Integrated calendar (M-x calendar is not integrated to e-mail)
> 18. Move/copy of e-mails from folder to other folder by using mouse
> 19. Convert e-mail to event
> 20. Convert e-mail to task
> 21. Drag and drop of attachments
> 22. HTML based e-mail writing
> 23. Attachment of WWW hyperlinks
> 24. Publish integrated calendar events/tasks
> 25. Automatic collection of e-mail addresses

My conclusion is that you don't have a very good idea of what Emacs
MUAs can do, because these tasks are all available.  Some are
available with any Emacs MUA, others with only some of them, but they
are available.