From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Auto Fill Comments Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 10:25:32 +0200 Message-ID: <83eekfp5oj.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87pn419aha.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> <20201126160013.GD28931@tuxteam.de> <20201126182734.GA5175@tuxteam.de> <54331aa0-6a9a-4809-9f2d-88deee31558b@default> <83pn3zp8bu.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8018"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 27 09:26:44 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kiZ5Y-0001z9-45 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 09:26:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45806 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kiZ5X-0003Zf-3d for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 03:26:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47542) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kiZ4f-0003Yj-1v for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 03:25:51 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33189) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kiZ4e-0007My-Of for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 03:25:48 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2846 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kiZ4d-0003To-UL for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 03:25:48 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Christopher Dimech on Fri, 27 Nov 2020 08:59:02 +0100) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:125650 Archived-At: > From: Christopher Dimech > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 08:59:02 +0100 > Sensitivity: Normal > > > > Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 at 8:28 AM > > From: "Eli Zaretskii" > > To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > > Subject: Re: Auto Fill Comments > > > > > From: Christopher Dimech > > > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 01:47:08 +0100 > > > Sensitivity: Normal > > > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > > > > > > The manuals should be rewritten because they are incomprehensible. > > > Perhaps it was good in the eighties. It continues forever. Consider > > > "face customisation" for instance, which just means font. Nobody > > > fuckin reads a manual with 17 nodes. You don't know which one to use, > > > which commands are most useful, and so on. The problem gets compounded > > > because every esoteric command is there. > > > > > > You are just insisting on something bad and inefficient. > > > > Fair warning: if that is your attitude towards our documentation, > > please be aware that there will be some people here who'd refrain from > > helping you. We don't work for you, so if you refuse to help yourself > > by becoming more proficient with the extensive documentation features > > in Emacs, we cannot be expected to hold your hand forever. > > It is well known that some at Gnu cannot take criticisms when others > try to read what others write. "I won't read your stuff because it's incomprehensible" is not a valid criticism. Criticism implies that you want to improve something, not disregard it summarily.