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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: prevent scroll-lock-mode from scrolling?
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 17:34:13 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83bn2w7wuy.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mvmgpwf9.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> (message from lee on Mon, 20 Jun 2016 01:54:02 +0200)

> From: lee <lee@yagibdah.de>
> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 01:54:02 +0200
> 
> I turn on scroll-lock-mode to keep the point where it is and don't want
> it to move.  Why would I expect it to move nonetheless?

Because some buffer positions would be unreachable otherwise.

> I was assuming that 'point' means the position where letters appear when
> I type, i. e. where the cursor is.

No, point is _buffer_ position where insertion happens.  It isn't a
screen position.

> > That might make sense in some use cases of view-mode (and even then
> > might get in the way), but not in a general-purpose editable buffer,
> > IMO.  It means some buffer positions are unreachable by
> > vertical-motion commands.
> 
> They won't be unreachable because you can always turn off
> scroll-lock-mode and move the cursor around.

Yes, but turning the mode on and off is an annoyance.

> Can you explain to me why the cursor remains at its position /on the
> screen/ while I'm scrolling with scroll-lock-mode enabled all the time
> like it should --- and then suddenly moves when the top or bottom of the
> buffer contents come into view?

See above: Emacs attempts to let you reach the buffer text below the
cursor position.

> Scroll-lock-mode does that to me.

I understand; this just means scroll-lock-mode is not doing what you
want, it's doing something else.  Maybe someone will extend it to do
what you want, or maybe there's already a similar mode that does.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-06-20 14:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-17  1:12 prevent scroll-lock-mode from scrolling? lee
2016-06-17  1:25 ` Emanuel Berg
2016-06-17  4:14   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-17  6:00     ` Emanuel Berg
2016-06-17 22:40       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-06-18  1:19         ` what to require (was: Re: prevent scroll-lock-mode from scrolling?) Emanuel Berg
2016-06-17 22:47   ` prevent scroll-lock-mode from scrolling? lee
2016-06-17  6:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-06-17 23:10   ` lee
2016-06-18  8:38     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-06-19 23:54       ` lee
2016-06-20  8:33         ` tomas
2016-06-20 14:32           ` lee
2016-06-20 10:05         ` Dmitry Alexandrov
2016-06-20 15:24           ` lee
2016-06-20 16:12             ` Dmitry Alexandrov
2016-06-20 19:50               ` lee
2016-06-20 14:34         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-06-20 21:21           ` lee

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