From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: History Re: Debunking Emacs merits over GUI - Re: package for Email Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2023 21:57:00 +0200 Message-ID: <83a62ajqb7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20230118180348.gzwvy6iztok45ko3@zoho.com> <83cz78mkh4.fsf@gnu.org> <831qnnkry8.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32554"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 22 20:57:32 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pJgT6-0008BY-9k for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 20:57:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pJgSW-0001yo-Mt; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 14:56:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pJgSV-0001yf-Az for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 14:56:55 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pJgSV-0002ID-3L for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 14:56:55 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=jdLt2N1fyj0Z5j4ktE0BfqzR6FHkp8EAACKMGsuR/W8=; b=TqLg1jjTuvgJRe8+IdtR wp5K/xNz+1PjjHaFs4dmA+YEostbcTvxV5bFf6gByw+zHWdXW92r0JlyezuQxzH7zfw8N6WPI9mC0 pppVmeLrJLXRH3NrcmK8qswLawyw1DXUgG8ZkOkNjElNApvnIz+oIOb10kweQWmyoES47wZQ1Rbx3 hHXf5kpDKTxRsC8afdQ7BGJYZRvkZRvgbM326J23+qjLDoogHcMjTWqYIrxcL6mUMIs6CWud5lbWx t8EVB0tBdYL6SINdHZWfjNm07uuX9vos9gyciwvISl2ahBRXc5IxiA9TEbsOapwiX4eeOefh2NE0F QhJLp6UGPtd72Q==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pJgST-0006i4-Q2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 14:56:54 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from David Masterson on Sun, 22 Jan 2023 11:33:54 -0800) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:142506 Archived-At: > From: David Masterson > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2023 11:33:54 -0800 > > >> Wasn't the display engine derived from Lucid Emacs? > > > > No, it was coded by Gerd Möllmann from scratch. Some features were > > borrowed from XEmacs, but only as far as the specification, behavior, > > and UX are concerned; no code was taken, AFAIR. > > My memory is faulty as well. I remember JamieZ wanting to get the Lucid > Emacs code into Gnu Emacs and Stallman having a problem with (IIRC) the > proprietariness of it, but the details were too "in the weeds" for me to > follow. That was about 10 years before the Emacs 21 display engine was designed and implemented.