From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: emacs + donation Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 18:00:24 +0200 Message-ID: <838td566w7.fsf@gnu.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1515599962 27134 195.159.176.226 (10 Jan 2018 15:59:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 15:59:22 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 10 16:59:17 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eZIma-0006h7-W3 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 16:59:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50536 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eZIoa-0005Ev-DI for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 11:01:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40499) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eZInq-0005Dw-QE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 11:00:35 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eZInn-00075v-8T for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 11:00:34 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:54611) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eZInm-00075i-Uh for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 11:00:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2214 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eZInm-0008Qs-DD for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 11:00:30 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from d paddy on Wed, 10 Jan 2018 09:35:36 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:115638 Archived-At: > From: d paddy > Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 09:35:36 -0500 > Cc: d paddy > > key 1 : 1 > key 2 : 2 > key 3 : 3 > key 4 : enter > key 5 : space > key 6 : space > key 7 : space > key 8 : enter > key 9 : 5 > key 10: 6 > key 11: 7 > > The word count utility reports only eight bytes in the file "example" -- > even though I typed eleven -- and hexl-mode shows those bytes are > > byte 1 : 31 > byte 2 : 32 > byte 3 : 33 > byte 4 : 0a > byte 5 : 0a > byte 6 : 34 > byte 7 : 35 > byte 8 : 36 > > Emacs evidently changes my input. How do I cajole emacs into reflecting > exactly what I type? Turn off electric-indent-mode. When that mode is turned on (as it is by default), typing RET removes trailing whitespace from the previous line.