From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Changing the language of gnus menu entries Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 18:51:03 +0300 Message-ID: <837ge4hpco.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87eh8eekza.fsf@web.de> <874n9amatr.fsf@web.de> <87vc1p9ggs.fsf@web.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1380124276 25643 80.91.229.3 (25 Sep 2013 15:51:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 15:51:16 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 25 17:51:19 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VOrMz-0007wP-KJ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 17:51:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53414 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOrMz-0007aG-6Q for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 11:51:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41976) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOrMh-0007Zw-T9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 11:51:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOrMX-0005vg-0D for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 11:50:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:36207) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOrMW-0005vY-ID for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 11:50:48 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MTO00M00UETKM00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 18:50:47 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MTO00M0KUOMKX10@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 18:50:46 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87vc1p9ggs.fsf@web.de> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.169 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:93573 Archived-At: > From: Michael Heerdegen > Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 15:30:11 +0200 > > I don't have a good feeling about that. It's already lots of work to > keep the English docstrings up to date. And if some volunteers leave, > people are left with outdated docstrings in their language they count > on. > > I'm not against localizing menus, but docstrings? Most of programmers > will understand English, and binding so much work, constantly, for very > few users? IMHO we should spend our time with other important tasks to > improve user experience. You are, in effect, saying that Emacs should not be localized. If doc strings, echo-area messages, and help-echo messages are not to be localized, what's the value of having single-word menus localized?