From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Using R-mail in Emacs Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 09:46:37 +0300 Message-ID: <837ejnjm0i.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86va7afpda.fsf@zoho.com> <83musmktmv.fsf@gnu.org> <87r2hxstkw.fsf@delle7240.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <837ejplc7p.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhwlzct5.fsf@gmail.com> <87d0tgh6rx.fsf@hornfels.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <865zz8e0kd.fsf@zoho.com> <861s9wdytg.fsf@zoho.com> <86worocffa.fsf@zoho.com> <86o9czder0.fsf@zoho.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1536993922 28095 195.159.176.226 (15 Sep 2018 06:45:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 06:45:22 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 15 08:45:18 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g14KR-000788-6g for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2018 08:45:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54540 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g14MX-0003I4-Ol for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2018 02:47:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39066) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g14Lx-0003Hz-MA for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2018 02:46:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g14Lu-0002M4-Ht for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2018 02:46:49 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37670) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g14Lu-0002Ly-EH for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2018 02:46:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2831 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g14Lu-0000xQ-0y for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2018 02:46:46 -0400 In-reply-to: <86o9czder0.fsf@zoho.com> (message from Emanuel Berg on Fri, 14 Sep 2018 22:07:47 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:117929 Archived-At: > From: Emanuel Berg > Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 22:07:47 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > We are miscommunicating. You think I'm > > talking about protocols, whereas I'm really > > talking about the essence and the nature of > > communications. Email and news groups are > > fundamentally different mediums, no matter > > what protocols are used to conduct those > > communications. E.g., there's no private > > messages in a news group. > > The awesome and fascinating thing with Gnus is > that you can have all those different channels > of communications available, using different > technologies under the hood, but still > accessing them all from the same program, using > the same interface! > > Writing this, in the header section is the > header > > Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help > > but if I wanted to, I could add > > Cc: joe-lamer@hackers.com > > and hit `C-c C-c'. That would send the message > as a post to gnu.emacs.help , but also as > a mail to Mr. Joe. That's exactly my point: Gnus is treating email as a weird kind of a newsgroup, and that has its limitations.