From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Auto Fill Comments Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2020 09:46:37 +0200 Message-ID: <837dq5ordu.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83pn3zp8bu.fsf@gnu.org> <20201127160216.GA27998@tuxteam.de> <20201127175346.GB27998@tuxteam.de> <87zh324fa9.fsf@web.de> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22622"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 28 08:47:42 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kiuxK-0005lU-9w for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2020 08:47:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38576 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kiuxJ-00019X-Ai for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2020 02:47:41 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40038) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kiuwW-00019I-4U for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2020 02:46:52 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41493) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kiuwV-0002DT-GB for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2020 02:46:51 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1560 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kiuwU-00009V-UG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2020 02:46:51 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87zh324fa9.fsf@web.de> (message from Michael Heerdegen on Fri, 27 Nov 2020 23:15:58 +0100) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:125718 Archived-At: > From: Michael Heerdegen > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 23:15:58 +0100 > > And if you ask for help everybody is suddenly quiet. I would be pissed > off. I don't know where Eli's motivation comes from. My motivation comes from the urge to keep improving the Emacs documentation. I cannot possibly do that with "criticism" that just says our documentation sucks and should be rewritten, because that's not useful: I don't know how to convert that to any useful list of things to fix. And, of course, saying that the manuals should be rewritten is a clear sign that the person probably doesn't know how to use the Info mode efficiently, and probably didn't read too much of said documentation. Which further diminishes the useful payload of such claims.