info-emacs-manual?

info-emacs-manual?

[Leo Butler]

After an
apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
a few weeks ago, I have found the emacs manual is missing for the top
info directory. That is,

C-h i d m emacs RET

doesn't send me to the emacs manual (I get a completion list,
instead). And, sure enough, Emacs is missing from the menu.

However

M-x info-emacs-manual RET

sends me to the manual.

Is this expected behaviour?

I am using

(emacs-version)
==>
GNU Emacs 27.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.30, cairo version 1.16.0)
 of 2021-11-27, modified by Debian


TIA,
Leo

Re: info-emacs-manual?

[Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor]

Leo Butler wrote:

> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
> a few weeks ago, I have found the emacs manual is missing
> for the top info directory. That is,
>
> C-h i d m emacs RET
>
> doesn't send me to the emacs manual (I get a completion list,
> instead). And, sure enough, Emacs is missing from the menu.
>
> However
>
> M-x info-emacs-manual RET
>
> sends me to the manual.
>
> Is this expected behaviour?

Try (info-initialize) ...

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Re: info-emacs-manual?

[Jean Louis]

* Leo Butler <leo.butler@umanitoba.ca> [2022-02-04 18:54]:
> After an
> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade

Sounds like Debian GNU/Linux. They have an issue with some information
in that manual,  if I remember well they did  not accept some verbatim
opinions in the manual and thus have sorted it under non-free packages.

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Re: info-emacs-manual?

[Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor]

Jean Louis wrote:

>> After an
>> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
>
> Sounds like Debian GNU/Linux. They have an issue with some
> information in that manual, if I remember well they did not
> accept some verbatim opinions in the manual and thus have
> sorted it under non-free packages.

You are right:

  https://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/48211/emacs-manuals-are-missing-on-debian-ubuntu

But install from source then and get the opt-in-free manual :)

This I do on Debian 11, to get GNU Emacs 29:

  https://dataswamp.org/~incal/conf/.zsh/install-emacs

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Re: info-emacs-manual?

[Jean Louis]

* Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> [2022-02-04 20:39]:
> But install from source then and get the opt-in-free manual :)
> 
> This I do on Debian 11, to get GNU Emacs 29:
> 
>   https://dataswamp.org/~incal/conf/.zsh/install-emacs

I am  using git development version  and install new version  each few
days when I remember, I should. Like now.

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Re: info-emacs-manual?

[Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor]

Jean Louis wrote:

>> But install from source then and get the opt-in-free manual :)
>> 
>> This I do on Debian 11, to get GNU Emacs 29:
>> 
>>   https://dataswamp.org/~incal/conf/.zsh/install-emacs
>
> I am using git development version and install new version
> each few days when I remember, I should. Like now.

Vixie Cron?

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Re: info-emacs-manual?

[Leo Butler]

Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
<help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> writes:

> Jean Louis wrote:
>
>>> After an
>>> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
>>
>> Sounds like Debian GNU/Linux. They have an issue with some
>> information in that manual, if I remember well they did not
>> accept some verbatim opinions in the manual and thus have
>> sorted it under non-free packages.

True, but irrelevant, since I have the manual installed.

>
> You are right:
>
>   https://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/48211/emacs-manuals-are-missing-on-debian-ubuntu
>
> But install from source then and get the opt-in-free manual :)
>
> This I do on Debian 11, to get GNU Emacs 29:
>
>   https://dataswamp.org/~incal/conf/.zsh/install-emacs

Interesting, but irrelevant. As I wrote, I can get to the emacs manual
(installed from the debian repo) using

M-x info-emacs-manual RET

Ok, I will file a bug report against the debian package unless someone
tells me otherwise.

Leo

Re: info-emacs-manual?

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Leo Butler <leo.butler@umanitoba.ca>
> Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2022 09:43:54 -0600
> 
> After an
> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
> a few weeks ago, I have found the emacs manual is missing for the top
> info directory. That is,
> 
> C-h i d m emacs RET
> 
> doesn't send me to the emacs manual (I get a completion list,
> instead). And, sure enough, Emacs is missing from the menu.
> 
> However
> 
> M-x info-emacs-manual RET
> 
> sends me to the manual.
> 
> Is this expected behaviour?

It is the expected behavior if your /usr/share/info/DIR file doesn't
mention the Emacs manual.  Which probably means no one run the
'install-info' command when the Emacs manuals were installed on your
system.  "M-x info-emacs-manual" loads the Emacs Info manual directly,
bypassing the DIR menu, so it does work as soon as the manual is
available on your system.

Bottom line, you should investigate what is the source of the DIR file
and how it is updated when you install manuals.