From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Eager macro-expansion failure Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2022 15:49:03 +0200 Message-ID: <834jve6d9s.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83mt9754ww.fsf@gnu.org> <83bkpm6htn.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18678"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 04 14:49:37 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oqx4i-0004by-EM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2022 14:49:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oqx4J-0008I1-L9; Fri, 04 Nov 2022 09:49:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oqx4H-0008He-0E for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2022 09:49:10 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oqx4G-0004Y7-Gm for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2022 09:49:08 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=CJ7uNp+W8e31THrkeqKIucZZ6laNIB3hmw3w45tdrJM=; b=Nt0B2DPGB3hq R1JyDXkQDr6ITlT8HWjzSZqm8ob4RoY4sbW8Ve4oddDyEpth+cyP93PMO1eohCPbF9qiuYZ6JyZi+ LSfdPwlCCfIZB2xGdTJnk31EBfF79UZY38e4YXC6hiMyu2H/qN17yBV2suW2FZ8dhNuA7u/GLas00 acm+r5XgMg4gVWcXKImEQdXt9W3S3iWDJIZqzqAIlM4dOr4s6DPIqc5WzqEs5FlfVJ9CfzJkRh1Y/ qK5Bjk/8lExMBvdc07qWPizERv0HpYHk7v7GUNkHhatrArBEyQ39QTjEAevOQ4VYOdttxXyO/FpCE j2nr0CR9rO/rGgWQ1crjog==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oqx4F-0005S8-MQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2022 09:49:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Evan Aad on Fri, 4 Nov 2022 15:12:43 +0200) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:140651 Archived-At: > From: Evan Aad > Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2022 15:12:43 +0200 > > There is no init file in any of the locations mentioned in the first > paragraph of the following article: > https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Init-File.html > or in the second and third paragraphs of the following article: > https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Find-Init.html > > In other words, there is no file named ~/.emacs, ~/.emacs.el, > ~/.emacs.d/init.el, ~/.config/emacs/init.el I'm talking about site-init files, not your user-specific init files (which you said you didn't have). If there's a difference between "emacs -Q" and just "emacs", there _must_ be some init file involved, and if you don't have user init files, then there _must_ be some site-init file. You need to examine your Emacs installation and the documentation of the distro you use to find out where to look for these files. Or, failing that, tell here which distro you use, and someone will probably be able to tell you where to look for site-init files. > Furthermore, my user-emacs-directory variable is set to ~/.emacs.d/ > and there is no file named .emacs, .emacs.el, init.el, default.el or > site-start.el under this directory nor under the directories ~/ and > ~/.config > > Moreover, in the directory /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp there is > just a single item: a directory named libidn/ and inside it there are > just two items, named idna.el and punycode.el > > Could there be an init file somewhere else? Yes. > If so, is there an easy way to find it? The value of my load-path > variable is very long. It would be very tedious to visit every > directory listed there manually, and I'm not savvy enough to write > code to automate this task. Look for files named default.el or site-start.el in any of the load-path directories. A good starting point is in /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/.