From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Make Super key work in console Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2021 20:19:48 +0200 Message-ID: <8335xqzjnf.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8735y06nap.fsf@zoho.eu> <87tuqg585j.fsf_-_@zoho.eu> <87pn12zbgc.fsf_-_@zoho.eu> <875z2twank.fsf@zoho.eu> <83h7m6zpr5.fsf@gnu.org> <837dn2zm29.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35657"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 20 19:20:38 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lDWrt-0009CZ-Qg for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 19:20:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60464 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDWrs-0001NS-Qr for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 13:20:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39786) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDWrO-0001N9-EX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 13:20:06 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:48711) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDWrO-0004xx-6q for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 13:20:06 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2402 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lDWrN-0005qP-CX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2021 13:20:05 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Sat, 20 Feb 2021 13:13:33 -0500) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:128153 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2021 13:13:33 -0500 > > > I don't think I understand. Given the APIs used by text-mode programs > > to read keyboard input, what are the alternatives for those "yucky" > > methods? > > Using escape sequences that start with ESC (and which hence collide > with actual uses of the ESC key) was arguably unavoidable, indeed. > > But using "just ESC" as "the escape sequence for meta" leads to more conflicts > since it doesn't just conflict with the use of the ESC key but also with > ESC used for escape sequences. > > They should have used "ESC " for the meta key so you don't > get conflicts like `M-O` conflicting with escape sequences that start > with `ESC O`. By "they" you mean Emacs? Because AFAIK it was Emacs which started translating "ESC KEY" to Meta-KEY.