From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: hork point in ~/.emacs: -Q and --debug outputs in terminal & *Messages* Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 15:47:13 +0300 Message-ID: <831rjpzkj2.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8463a064-a5b3-23c6-1589-a6cc5f899b95@mousecar.com> <83o8mvyqeg.fsf@gnu.org> <83h7snymee.fsf@gnu.org> <25d1778e-99c9-4d8e-faa2-c89b8e261ce8@mousecar.com> <83eenqzz4v.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24184"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 29 14:48:05 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kC0H5-00069o-QZ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 14:48:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53340 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kC0H4-0000MG-Ni for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 08:48:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48172) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kC0GP-0000M3-AX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 08:47:21 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53217) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kC0GP-0004mg-1Y for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 08:47:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4039 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kC0GO-00047O-Di for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 08:47:20 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from ken on Sat, 29 Aug 2020 08:24:01 -0400) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:123846 Archived-At: > From: ken > Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 08:24:01 -0400 > > On 8/28/20 9:19 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> From: ken > >> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 09:02:39 -0400 > >> > >>>> "rpm -ql emacs|grep emacs.pdmp" returns nothing. > > What does "rpm -ql emacs" display? > # rpm -ql emacs > /etc/skel/.gnu-emacs > /usr/bin/ebrowse > /usr/bin/emacs > /usr/bin/emacsclient > /usr/lib/emacs > /usr/lib/emacs/27.1 > /usr/lib/emacs/27.1/x86_64-suse-linux > /usr/lib/emacs/27.1/x86_64-suse-linux/hexl > /usr/lib/emacs/27.1/x86_64-suse-linux/rcs2log > /usr/lib/emacs/27.1/x86_64-suse-linux/update-game-score So they use /usr/lib/emacs/27.1/x86_64-suse-linux/ instead of /usr/libexec/emacs/27.1/x86_64-suse-linux/. I believe this is the old standard. OK, but this RPM is AFAIU simply busted: they didn't include the emacs.pdmp file, which is now a must, and AFAIU should have been in /usr/lib/emacs/27.1/x86_64-suse-linux/. (Not the reason for your problems, but I see that the Info files of the manuals that come with Emacs are also not there. So you have no documentation of Emacs 27.1 installed.) So please take this up with the distro which you are using: either they made a mistake or you didn't install everything you need to for Emacs 27.1 to be operable. It would be meaningless to try to solve the other problems you had during startup, before you resolve this fundamental installation problem. Emacs 27 is not supposed to be used without the .pdmp file.