From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: if vs. when vs. and: style question Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 09:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <813c80f5-01c4-4aa3-baf6-cfcde4eb6f0d@default> References: <87sicvwckx.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl> <87wq27yvqg.fsf@debian.uxu> <8d531e99-7260-4263-ac99-09c6871e2708@googlegroups.com> <87vbhq53lf.fsf@debian.uxu> <87a8z23p23.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87lhilx0cf.fsf@debian.uxu> <87twx9360u.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <0d1d19ab-06e9-462d-8867-9a49b1e232d3@googlegroups.com> <87lhil2io1.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1427299626 14138 80.91.229.3 (25 Mar 2015 16:07:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 16:07:06 +0000 (UTC) To: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 25 17:06:53 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YanpO-0006iu-MJ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 17:06:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40086 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YanpN-0004Jc-Vx for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 12:06:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:32891) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YanpB-0004JK-8M for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 12:06:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yanp7-0002G7-U2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 12:06:33 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:30063) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yanp7-0002G1-Nr for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 12:06:29 -0400 Original-Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t2PG6RYo022563 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 25 Mar 2015 16:06:27 GMT Original-Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t2PG6R3Z002495 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 25 Mar 2015 16:06:27 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0018.oracle.com (abhmp0018.oracle.com [141.146.116.24]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t2PG6Qtm012062; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 16:06:26 GMT In-Reply-To: <87lhil2io1.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:103327 Archived-At: > Notice, that I asked the reader to compare the ease of input. Before I comment further, let me say that I agree with your point. > =3D> super easy, two keys to type. > The unicode correspondance? I would start typing C-x 8 RET double TAB > and not find it in the list. So I would have to launch clisp, > C-- slime RET clisp RET > wait for it to boot then type: > (lschar :name "RIGHT_ARROW") RET > the search for double, and not find it, then copy and paste it from your > message,=20 > (char-name #\=E2=87=92) > obtain the character name as "RIGHTWARDS_DOUBLE_ARROW", then type > C-x 8 RET rightward double arrow RET > which, even if I had know it from the start, is still much more > difficult to type than just =3D>. Yes and no. Yes, if you haven't used a particular Unicode char before or use it rarely. No, if you use it often. If you use a particular Unicode character often, just give its insertion a command and bind that to a key. If you have 30 such chars, put them all on a prefix key. Or use completion on their command names (names you created, so easy for you to type, remember, complete to,...). IOW, it's not a big deal to insert Unicode characters, especially if you insert the same ones over and over. You do not need to use `C-x 8 RET' each time.