From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [VM] Emacs for email: Rmail v VM v Gnus Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 00:23:01 +0100 Organization: aich tea tea pea dicky riley dot net Message-ID: <7msjbpdpnu.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> References: <20519.24129.473000.750075@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <44sjbp2uw5.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Reply-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1344986715 20563 80.91.229.3 (14 Aug 2012 23:25:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 23:25:15 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 15 01:25:16 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1T1QU5-0001xC-Au for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 01:25:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43228 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T1QU4-0003gr-BH for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:25:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59980) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T1QTy-0003eU-H6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:25:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T1QTw-0006my-QY for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:25:06 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:51386) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T1QTw-0006m2-JN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:25:04 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1T1QTv-0001fy-J8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 01:25:03 +0200 Original-Received: from client-86-29-191-85.brhm-bam-3.adsl.virginmedia.com ([86.29.191.85]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 01:25:03 +0200 Original-Received: from rileyrg by client-86-29-191-85.brhm-bam-3.adsl.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 01:25:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 38 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: client-86-29-191-85.brhm-bam-3.adsl.virginmedia.com X-Message-Smtp-Method: smtp smtp.gmail.com 587 rileyrg Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Qn7ebDjX0GzUuA9CPa6H4M+Q0TU= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:86341 Archived-At: James Freer writes: > On 14 August 2012 19:25, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >> James Freer writes: >> >>> >>> As VM isn't part of gnu-emacs why has Rmail not been developed. There >>> was a discussion thread a while back on how emacs could be improved. >>> Emacs is "complete working environment" but for email for IMAP and >>> virtual folders one has to turn to another app. Xemacs i believe has >>> VM installed with it. Why not use Xemacs? well i found it fairly poor >>> compared with gnu-emacs [well it doesn't seem to have been compiled >>> properly for use on ubuntu somehow.] >> >> Rmail is nice and simple; adding major new features to it would amount >> to writing another new mail reader, which would be silly. Gnu Emacs >> already ships with several ways to handle IMAP, at least one of which >> (Gnus) also does virtual folders in several ways. And while VM may not >> be included with Gnu Emacs, it is available as a system package on many >> OS distributions (including Ubuntu) the same way that Emacs is. So there >> are plenty of options. > > Thing is i'd like to stay 'simple' but Rmail could at least be > developed to handletake IMAP. > Gnus is 'geek' application - "Lepers" like me struggle to get it setup. > > james > It has a very active user community and most setup issues are quickly solved. I particularly like recent additions such as better gpg integration for authinfo files so passwords are not plaintext and the addition of multiple smtp servers for domains (e.g when you have two gmail accounts). -- Sent using Emacs/Gnus from home ...