From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: no to war in Ukraine Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:10:18 +0200 Message-ID: <7f8b6dc4-a621-2ab4-86ab-79325a1f2a0c@yandex.ru> References: <87ee3p4xn4.fsf@zoho.eu> <87tucl18rp.fsf@zoho.eu> <3cf3a903-10fb-76e4-24f8-d2e48d045f5c@rixotstudio.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30828"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.5.0 To: Jacob Hrbek , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 27 02:11:01 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nO85T-0007li-TT for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Sat, 26 Feb 2022 17:10:20 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [192.168.0.6] ([46.251.119.176]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id x16-20020adff0d0000000b001ea81265a5fsm8368841wro.99.2022.02.26.17.10.19 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 26 Feb 2022 17:10:19 -0800 (PST) Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <3cf3a903-10fb-76e4-24f8-d2e48d045f5c@rixotstudio.cz> X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a00:1450:4864:20::431 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::431; envelope-from=raaahh@gmail.com; helo=mail-wr1-x431.google.com X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, PDS_HP_HELO_NORDNS=0.659, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:136224 Archived-At: On 27.02.2022 02:02, Jacob Hrbek wrote: > > FOSS people saying somewhere no to war? > > I do and I've made a statement on that in > https://qoto.org/@kreyren/107851975317924221 in short taking steps to > reduce russian access to my software and hardware by revoking the right > to use, study, improve and distribute + considering to take identity > verification and vetting for sensitive projects such as open-source > aircraft that could be used as a drone. There is a lot of Free Software written by Russians that you are are almost certainly using. Maybe not entirely but at least in part. And not all of us support this terrible, unjust war. There are anti-war protests all around the world, including Moscow and Saint-Petersburg. There are certain kinds of software that are more problematic than others, though. For instance, face recognition software now currently used by Russian government on its citizens was at some point written by probably well-meaning developers. Given how quickly it has been retargeted at protestors, I don't think it's a good idea to have *any* country use such software. Though that ship has probably sailed.