From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: use of special-event-map Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 14:33:15 +0200 Organization: sometimes Message-ID: <7eacn4bmus.fsf@ada2.unipv.it> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1115642552 29945 80.91.229.2 (9 May 2005 12:42:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 12:42:32 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 09 14:42:26 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DV7Xt-0001RS-8Z for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 May 2005 14:39:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DV7gC-0004Yr-A2 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 May 2005 08:48:12 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.multikabel.nl!gatel-ffm!gatel-ffm!194.25.134.126.MISMATCH!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!feed.news.tiscali.de!uio.no!quimby.gnus.org!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 26 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: ada2.unipv.it Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1115641995 26370 193.204.44.145 (9 May 2005 12:33:15 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 12:33:15 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:YWmjDAUiMEAWSgWHnl55I3xWzl4= Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:130799 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:26454 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:26454 "Drew Adams" writes: > I didn't know at what point Emacs received a window-manager > event for this. I found no explanation of special events like > [iconify-frame] in such terms. I tried to follow the code that > deals with this event (in parts of w32term.c, xterm.c, frame.c, > and keyboard.c), but this wasn't clear to me. generally, emacs' awareness of events happens after the event, which happens after the window manager is through munging and/or generating the event. programmability of window manager behavior from elisp is only possible if the window manager (1) is programmable; (2) provides an interface that accepts hints from emacs on how to do its job; and (3) honors those hints. (1) is easy to arrange, (2) less so, (3) even less. in any case it is all very window manager specific unless you are willing to add to emacs the rest of ICCCM (aside from the "Extended Segments in X selections" support which is already in place, iiuc). and even then, to what extent ICCCM is supported by the window manager as well as the (non-)expressiveness of ICCCM to implement the desired behavior, remains uncertain. thi