From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Andrea Vettorello" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: M-<, M->, M-% ... Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:18:09 +0100 Message-ID: <7d5440240803270218n7685ea30xde0c415bbd36d4df@mail.gmail.com> References: <7d5440240803252340k5632d62fwda10a01733bc7f8d@mail.gmail.com> <200803270100.m2R10DwD003844@localhost.localdomain> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206609540 9497 80.91.229.12 (27 Mar 2008 09:19:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:19:00 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 27 10:19:31 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JeoGf-0004Va-IP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:19:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JeoG3-0002td-Bz for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:18:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JeoFR-0002tU-Ra for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:18:13 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JeoFP-0002sp-L2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:18:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JeoFP-0002sb-Bg for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:18:11 -0400 Original-Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.184]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JeoFP-0000mq-1N for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:18:11 -0400 Original-Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c27so3241713rvf.6 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:18:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Dtj9KJj5zckIoQUw6D5pcY99E9XVKAfiL4n/V6PaF9E=; b=mSo3Y+EoO3AyzrRh2bbYtB0rSTbrUpK5rLIfHIFLRGuEOoXUzeAIk+iRy8gMOh3RTTT/dfGY5GVdQmg3I6NbfvNKhJArum/LonwXn2egTIDi54Ar9tVDFatn31GJZD35VA3gR8lxCw8H0KCxICidTkT/zqc3VQi7/EykHYNlPrg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LF6PX9kBPBrdzLOIffmN6xTqUIjrf45aPpyRhEluBiKYXSGrTC9cLt59w5vbzZEjon1DjNSsTVEZDlpM+hidPLtqjK3O3QfhByeXPJMjUrhe0hanqB+b4POX8sWZA4GtAN+mo4rHfNJ5aiNySmrv4DpQS4jgMXJKBIjjnDUme2Y= Original-Received: by 10.141.76.21 with SMTP id d21mr848411rvl.242.1206609489542; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.141.70.10 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:18:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200803270100.m2R10DwD003844@localhost.localdomain> Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:52735 Archived-At: On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 2:00 AM, Xavier Maillard wrote: [...] > Or C-[ if Esc is difficult to reach. > > Yes, this is how I am currently doing but I find it > counter-productive and hard to type (and I am fed up to type > these two-times key bindings :)). I somewhat misread what you were asking, but yeah, I find it frustrating using Emacs outside X, on terminal emulators or console (maybe I should spend some time to configure it), so I try to avoid it. ^__^ Anyway for some key combinations I like the Esc and C-[ "sticky" behaviour, usually when I need to reach for the shift key other than meta (I know about sticky modifiers in the "assistive technology" of the various DE but I can't get used to have it enabled all the time). -- Andrea