From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: ken Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Bugs in Tramp in general [was: Re: BUG in Tramp: After sleep, saving file hangs] Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 01:54:58 -0400 Message-ID: <7bc6697c-4dc5-d6ca-826b-ca53e5e625cc@mousecar.com> References: <358cb627-8711-6940-9376-3ccf4bd10093@mousecar.com> <87a7qqlyjn.fsf@gmx.de> <4b7c679e-40c9-831c-0ea5-81396e7f7126@mousecar.com> <87muunha4f.fsf@gmx.de> Reply-To: gebser@mousecar.com NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1532498009 6948 195.159.176.226 (25 Jul 2018 05:53:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 05:53:29 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.0 To: GNU Emacs List Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 25 07:53:25 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fiCjl-0001jN-1W for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 07:53:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44906 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fiClr-00015j-JP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 01:55:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45858) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fiClM-00015S-Sr for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 01:55:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fiClJ-0005RY-Vj for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 01:55:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.197]:60817) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fiClJ-0005R0-Nw for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 01:55:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.0.17] ([96.27.75.237]) by mrelay.perfora.net (mreueus003 [74.208.5.2]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MdtW7-1fLRmL0kdp-00PbZ7 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 07:55:00 +0200 Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=gebser@mousecar.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsDiBFEDAcwRBACNBKoSAi2xQe3Q5KhOEhVxxbDNHymWmd/Z1nGwNMrhKA7z2TluQRtoO06H C1bsb/ztMARJG3XMcVj1cdiBP0MaOhJwlUG9WPEWe1J4jsYkJah6Zq09S2TOftxOW960iAel 4ZkxxwglMudvGENKok3UHzS+frk5tA5u7wm9vPMKcwCg9D+lwv8XIdA9CqyK9cVAZ+HnpAMD /j/nY6Pdpg+yQm9GW8/nk3SlYOr0mwVRoVJEdz7czLCq0gq2Shz05Y4eHONlgosso0YydkNV vY/cLHfeW8Q47kd/lP04n6TMsJbC70o5TChSF+0VwuAEgUUoaWh0yMgVl4+a9kq9A4xAYIcV b81eDbeCdyAf/yakM6/ANfQqsOIAA/9HcjHO27AkGvRuxU/T/3Mzq93TmqphlIiXsGwsVBdJ BMDMw4oQ2T4eB+aHZdekeuPMeiDt05bPthleRA0ffGxTIfxpgOQI/E5+X0Ip0RZo7kKcV5xc aFK2xITo1Kj8g7wLw3V6ixu4BUz8TyZhy68aDlmlikwiHOCkNPc/0uAbfc08a2VuICg1Ni0z MDMzKSAoaW4gY2hpbGx5IENsZXZlbGFuZCkgPGNvdXNpbkBuZXdjdWx0dXJlcy5jb20+wmYE ExECACYFAlEDAcwCGwMFCQ0oaIAGCwkIBwMCBBUCCAMEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRB3pitxDI9d TWFMAJ9FlACq35IUNpW+OoWnmIaM9EaZZgCfct4gpxKVOdA4uxQIfcaaciXzLF/Ow00EUQMF 4xAQAObCzo+yOxQk In-Reply-To: <87muunha4f.fsf@gmx.de> Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:AJqoAElhWvSuG+aVwxo2kTwl7+7m4T7Pk4eNIaL1n+VW/LnKfEa d2XDNQJbgIH6DpNboMlLlplOa4Cqo+f37h6gQr9OwZBcbzUJHigdgAtsiNT0l4zj0J3N22Y fylbLFqlF4BzKr9vX1CCbfIdfE9R2/x9Wa/57bxj0itjCfbGNBKj6k1b1cdZH2aufiN4HCw Hy41+XUhi22xQ3nnWwa5w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:XpcuTJZB/H8=:WG0tqhrM8VPBJDvLtXVJwJ tVmg4AOHuDV6PqJ1/cecKcUiyqRbDZyOhxglMThvZlixj0ScSQJBEP+xtVexBxkcp3xmcNQ+k GWSPC8NIhDls3iQYmQVwhOFabY64bfY8W2Ocz+ToQiM3IDym+ciSjheqZH3qg+bpazvuvQhPk oIgI43QJSPyiIq3X5sHCRyn3C6+2w8+2P9nafiVsDLXEdjyogG6xxZoR1w81hFyHMh5ov0M6A VBCJ9NBX96Tc7z4DIHWzaXgRibppawVVCrod3d+dAUvs7u76p0BNCWqsahX/jyph/XaNJZRFU 8QYrpD4IcqdiFKVdW3Px3YQ3cIZc/b2erUAOR6PNDNGybIYuQiawKQPiOFG1ElkAWwORp8L0P CtJPZ5a339EImWVS2kBg4XvsOKF4z6+jT3m/PF2ARNgn6d6xlNowkJGSLIBhPDrSsMW5XySLu UfanmRk2yXWnyNUoeVaNpH4GzeoyHNtlD58Vvb/qIngioEBJEaZTX+jXO8jQ/+e0ZTNrQZBwI IPc6CrgqX+osXuCjr9o1TBa+zfF974/QdtTxWFGZjC2iqTNHyZxFBG+3IBC7/LmhLWovkO6U8 zgv6QmAput6bJI5oDAr6KzY5DKsUvNqQ54fO1IbUu32Ni06bd8WZTNmrUZ2tZolkvgYozcekq MQot/uQ/lmnIaZliKb5wKQ13I3O5+llxttYcLbKDWt6wmPlKz4pgToaqI4qbj36NYzmRpmF9F 6zrMWuuZJRfN1tzK X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 74.208.4.197 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:117583 Archived-At: On 07/19/2018 05:01 AM, Michael Albinus wrote: > In particular, did you experience such behaviour with Tramp bugs? That question is not possible to answer, as this is the first bug (?) I've ever encountered in Tramp... and I've been using it a long time.=C2=A0= As I'm sure you know, there was ange-ftp before tramp and I was using that back in the early-mid 1990s and I never had a problem with that either.=C2=A0 I can recall only once having a difficulty (and I'm not sur= e whether it was ange-ftp or tramp) and that turned out to be a change in syntax used when opening a remote file.=C2=A0 That was a very long time a= go, so I might not be recalling correctly, but IIRC the (then) new syntax required an initial slash (/) prepending the host:path/file specification. But not at all a bug.=C2=A0 Tramp has been excellent softw= are and for a long time.=C2=A0 This was my first-ever issue with it. Thanks again for your response.