From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Dyballa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: "more", "ls -l", and column 80 in shell Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:58:10 +0200 Message-ID: <7CF770BF-3B21-436D-98D4-1C073E47FF58@Web.DE> References: <1150411474.595005.130180@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1150468947.138065.135840@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <8764ip4lm7.fsf@tiger.rapttech.com.au> <871wtcdi5o.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1151276315 11994 80.91.229.2 (25 Jun 2006 22:58:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:58:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 26 00:58:34 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FudYk-0007xW-RU for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:58:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FudYk-0003Is-6M for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 18:58:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FudYX-0003IV-Bg for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 18:58:17 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FudYV-0003Hp-MX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 18:58:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FudYV-0003Hm-HP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 18:58:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [217.72.192.227] (helo=fmmailgate02.web.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FudkE-0001ey-PY; Sun, 25 Jun 2006 19:10:23 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537FE46E191; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:58:13 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [87.193.42.158] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (WEB.DE 4.107 #114) id 1FudYS-0004VY-00; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:58:13 +0200 In-Reply-To: <871wtcdi5o.fsf@catnip.gol.com> X-Image-Url: http://homepage.mac.com/sparifankal/.cv/thumbs/me.thumbnail Original-To: Miles Bader X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) X-Sender: Peter_Dyballa@web.de X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:35658 Archived-At: Am 25.06.2006 um 23:44 schrieb Miles Bader: > Peter Dyballa writes: >> I had to prevent the colourising feature, now I actually have to turn >> it on actively! GNU's ls is not that careful -- and it cannot =20 >> display >> UTF-8 characters! > > Huh? Neither of these things seem to be true.... It is true for a *shell* buffer in GNU Emacs 22.0.50: I see ``a=B4=B4 instead of ``=E4=B4=B4, as in dired. In GNU Emacs 23.0.0 it = all =20 looks right. > [This is "ls (GNU coreutils) 5.96" ... Apple has a bit of a reputation > for using long out-of-date versions of things like that, so who knows > what they're including in osx...] > ls (GNU coreutils) 5.94, from Fink distribution. In Apple's ls I found with strings: $FreeBSD: src/bin/ls/cmp.c,v 1.12 2002/06/30 05:13:54 obrien Exp = $ $FreeBSD: src/bin/ls/ls.c,v 1.66 2002/09/21 01:28:36 wollman Exp = $ $FreeBSD: src/bin/ls/print.c,v 1.57 2002/08/29 14:29:09 keramida = Exp $ $FreeBSD: src/bin/ls/util.c,v 1.30 2002/06/30 05:13:54 obrien = Exp $ @(#)PROGRAM:ls PROJECT:file_cmds-116.9 DEVELOPER:root = BUILT:Mon =20 Mar 21 14:49:18 PST 2005 This old software does a better job in GNU Emacs 22.0.50's *shell* =20 buffer. -- Greetings Pete =93Computers are good at following instructions, but not at reading =20 your mind.=94 - D. E. Knuth, The TeXbook, Addison-Wesley 1984, 1986, 1996, p. 9