From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: A "smaller" dired Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 09:40:16 -0700 Message-ID: <7B1191D9D3E1434AA8413B9DB021E8AB@us.oracle.com> References: <547CCD1598BC4FB8980A496C272784B5@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1280940340 15243 80.91.229.12 (4 Aug 2010 16:45:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 16:45:40 +0000 (UTC) To: "'Andrea Crotti'" , Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 04 18:45:35 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ogh5x-0007X3-FU for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 18:45:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45950 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ogh5w-0001DH-96 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 12:45:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=46271 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ogh11-0005bj-B0 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 12:40:28 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ogh10-00047Q-0g for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 12:40:27 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]:48040) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ogh0z-00047H-QU for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 12:40:25 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id o74GeMQc016642 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 4 Aug 2010 16:40:23 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt355.oracle.com (acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o74BbXwq002395; Wed, 4 Aug 2010 16:40:19 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt009.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 465867151280940018; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 09:40:18 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.217.40) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 04 Aug 2010 09:40:17 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Acsz8QjrX2tZon7ITi6H/mZB1FOrnAAAB5Og X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 X-Source-IP: acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090204.4C5997F5.00FB:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:74443 Archived-At: > By the way, interesting the auto-resizing of windows, how do you do it > more or less? I auto-resize Emacs frames (window-mgr windows), not Emacs windows. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Shrink-Wrapping_Frames > But can I ask why you want a different frame for every buffer? > Were you not satisfied by windows management in only one buffer? > Maybe the window manager is smarter? (mm on windows it would > be strange) I don't understand some of those questions (dunno what mm is etc.). I use Emacs frames the way most people use Emacs windows. I do often reuse frames for different buffers (I don't dedicate all windows as some people do - e.g. Stefan Monnier). And I do sometimes (not often) split a window, using more than one in a frame. Using Emacs windows instead of frames is essentially like using a tiling window manager. I prefer separate frames that I can place anywhere and that I can fit to their buffers so I don't waste screen real estate. I have key bindings for moving frames about and resizing frames. I also use thumbnail frames for iconifying. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/FisheyeWithThumbs These are like desktop icons, but they are fully functioning (though tiny) frames. Instead of just names as icons, stacked in the Windows taskbar, the icons I use are placed on the desktop (in an ordered way, by default), and I can see not only the buffer names but the buffer contents. And I can use that content even though it is tiny. It's a great way to save real estate and yet see multiple buffers in an overall way, monitor the accumulating output of a process, etc. The number of frames that I want iconified corresponds well with the amount of desktop real estate I use for thumbnail frames. At any time I of course have many additional buffers open that are not visible in any frame (thumbnail or otherwise). And I can also iconify a frame normally (different keystroke), but I rarely do that.