From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean-Christophe Helary Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs i18n Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 11:26:59 +0900 Message-ID: <7AB7F0B3-1E89-43E3-9E49-88D8EA505B2B@traduction-libre.org> References: <875yx8bquz.fsf@zoho.eu> <4680417.tVc3Mv8E8M@galex-713.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.100.0.2.22\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3900"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: Help Gnu Emacs mailing list Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 18 04:27:55 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m4wX5-0000pM-C7 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 04:27:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50320 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m4wX3-0005mO-OM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2021 22:27:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44132) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m4wWS-0005lz-DL for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2021 22:27:16 -0400 Original-Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.196]:37687) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m4wWP-0006gc-QK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2021 22:27:16 -0400 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: lists@traduction-libre.org) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BC5A6E0003 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 02:27:08 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <4680417.tVc3Mv8E8M@galex-713.eu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.100.0.2.22) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.196; envelope-from=lists@traduction-libre.org; helo=relay4-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:131813 Archived-At: > On Jul 18, 2021, at 7:55, Alexandre Garreau = wrote: >=20 > Le dimanche 18 juillet 2021, 00:06:03 CEST Jean-Christophe Helary a = =C3=A9crit=20 > : >>> On Jul 18, 2021, at 5:57, Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU >>> Emacs text editor wrote:>=20 >>> Alexandre Garreau wrote: >>>> Translating emacs would require to translate many >>>> identifiers, it would actually amount to translate >>>> a programming language >>>=20 >>> I don't think anyone suggests doing that, I think what can be >>> translated is *the interface*, so for example in the menu >>> "Quit" or "Exit" or whatever it says (I'm not a menu user) >>> _that_ would be translated. >>=20 >> Along with the help and the other user-facing strings (for ex, some >> strings in package.el) >>=20 >> Doing the UI only is not useful. The UI and the help would be >> tremendously useful. >=20 > For me, a great deal of emacs UI are command + docstring, and I bet a=20= > great deal of menu comes from command and variable names=E2=80=A6 >=20 > But that makes me think that something really useful would be = translating=20 > the manual, especially the less changing parts u.u Bienvenu au club. https://traduc.org/Emacs --=20 Jean-Christophe Helary @brandelune https://mac4translators.blogspot.com https://sr.ht/~brandelune/omegat-as-a-book/