* Emacs on Windows ignoring "\C-)"
@ 2009-11-16 4:37 Joe
2009-11-16 10:44 ` Bernardo
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From: Joe @ 2009-11-16 4:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Hey all,
Emacs doesn't seem to capture the key sequence "\C-)" (ctrl-shift-0).
This input doesn't appear in (view-lossage). I've tried loading emacs
without an init and site file and the behavior is the same.
Does anyone else have this problem, or have a solution?
I'm using Windows 7 with:
"GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7600)
of 2009-07-29 on SOFT-MJASON"
Thanks,
Joe
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* Re: Emacs on Windows ignoring "\C-)"
2009-11-16 4:37 Emacs on Windows ignoring "\C-)" Joe
@ 2009-11-16 10:44 ` Bernardo
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2009-11-16 18:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Bernardo @ 2009-11-16 10:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
> Hey all,
>
> Emacs doesn't seem to capture the key sequence "\C-)" (ctrl-shift-0).
> This input doesn't appear in (view-lossage). I've tried loading emacs
> without an init and site file and the behavior is the same.
>
> Does anyone else have this problem, or have a solution?
>
> I'm using Windows 7 with:
> "GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7600)
> of 2009-07-29 on SOFT-MJASON"
>
> Thanks,
> Joe
what happens when you type
C-h k C-)
are there any messages in the echo area or *Messages* buffer?
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* Re: Emacs on Windows ignoring "\C-)"
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@ 2009-11-16 18:33 ` Joe
2009-11-16 19:22 ` Drew Adams
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From: Joe @ 2009-11-16 18:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
> what happens when you type
> C-h k C-)
> are there any messages in the echo area or *Messages* buffer?
When I press C-h k C-), emacs (actually `describe-key') continues to
wait for a keypress. It doesn't do anything in response to C-).
There are no messages in the echo area or in the *Messages* buffer.
Interestingly, if I force the issue by evaluating (describe-key (kbd
"C-)")), emacs reacts correctly and brings up the help for function
associated with the key.
I thought maybe I screwed up something on Windows, but logging in as a
different user results in the same behavior.
Any more ideas?
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* Re: Emacs on Windows ignoring "\C-)"
2009-11-16 4:37 Emacs on Windows ignoring "\C-)" Joe
2009-11-16 10:44 ` Bernardo
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@ 2009-11-16 18:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-16 19:07 ` Lennart Borgman
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2009-11-16 18:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
> From: Joe <joesmoe10@gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:37:30 -0800 (PST)
>
> Hey all,
>
> Emacs doesn't seem to capture the key sequence "\C-)" (ctrl-shift-0).
> This input doesn't appear in (view-lossage). I've tried loading emacs
> without an init and site file and the behavior is the same.
>
> Does anyone else have this problem, or have a solution?
>
> I'm using Windows 7 with:
> "GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7600)
> of 2009-07-29 on SOFT-MJASON"
I don't see this problem on Windows XP SP2.
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* Re: Emacs on Windows ignoring "\C-)"
2009-11-16 18:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2009-11-16 19:07 ` Lennart Borgman
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From: Lennart Borgman @ 2009-11-16 19:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>> From: Joe <joesmoe10@gmail.com>
>> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:37:30 -0800 (PST)
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Emacs doesn't seem to capture the key sequence "\C-)" (ctrl-shift-0).
>> This input doesn't appear in (view-lossage). I've tried loading emacs
>> without an init and site file and the behavior is the same.
>>
>> Does anyone else have this problem, or have a solution?
>>
>> I'm using Windows 7 with:
>> "GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7600)
>> of 2009-07-29 on SOFT-MJASON"
>
> I don't see this problem on Windows XP SP2.
I do not see this problem either on Windows XP, but I wonder if you
have sticky keys turned on, Joe?
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* RE: Emacs on Windows ignoring "\C-)"
2009-11-16 18:33 ` Joe
@ 2009-11-16 19:22 ` Drew Adams
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From: Drew Adams @ 2009-11-16 19:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Joe', help-gnu-emacs
> When I press C-h k C-), emacs (actually `describe-key') continues to
> wait for a keypress. It doesn't do anything in response to C-).
Does it look like this in the minibuffer?
Describe key (or click or menu item): C-)-
IOW, ending with a with a dash, with the cursor after the dash?
If it does, that's a sign that `C-)' is defined as a prefix key, for some
reason. `C-h k' waits for the rest of the key sequence following the prefix.
You can try this, to try to get some more info: `C-) C-h'. With a little luck,
if `C-)' is in fact a prefix key this will show you help about `C-)' and its
possible completions. The command names bound to the keys might give you a clue
about what library is binding `C-)'.
You say that this also happens to you if you start Emacs using `emacs -Q'? If
so, then consider filing a bug: `M-x report-emacs-bug'. AFAIK, `C-)' should not
be bound to anything by default in virgin, vanilla Emacs. (describe-key (kbd
"C-)") should say simply `C-) is undefined'.
If this same behavior does not occur with `emacs -Q', however, then look in your
init file for something that is defining `C-)' (as a prefix key). To find it,
use binary search: comment out half your init file, then half of that, and so
on, until you narrow down the guilty part. Sounds long, but it's actually very
quick to do.
> There are no messages in the echo area or in the *Messages* buffer.
> Interestingly, if I force the issue by evaluating (describe-key (kbd
> "C-)")), emacs reacts correctly and brings up the help for function
> associated with the key.
What does that help say? If it says `C-) is undefined', then there is likely a
problem with `describe-key'. If it gives some command name, then take a look at
the library that defines that command.
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* Re: Emacs on Windows ignoring "\C-)"
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@ 2009-11-17 2:47 ` Joe
2009-11-17 10:44 ` Bernardo
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From: Joe @ 2009-11-17 2:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
First off, thanks for the replies. Now to address those replies:
> I don't see this problem on Windows XP SP2.
I'm beginning to suspect the problem is related to Windows 7. Does
any one
running Vista or Windows 7 have this problem?
> I do not see this problem either on Windows XP, but I wonder if you
> have sticky keys turned on, Joe?
Sticky keys are off.
> Does it look like this in the minibuffer? Describe key (or click or menu
> item): C-)- IOW, ending with a with a dash, with the cursor after the dash?
No, it completely ignores "C-)". For example the key sequence:
"C-h k C-) g" results in "C-h k g". Emacs describes the `self-insert-
command'
because that's what 'g' does.
> You say that this also happens to you if you start Emacs using `emacs -Q'? If
> so, then consider filing a bug: `M-x report-emacs-bug'. AFAIK, `C-)' should
> not be bound to anything by default in virgin, vanilla Emacs. (describe-key
> (kbd "C-)") should say simply `C-) is undefined'.
Yes, "emacs -Q" also ignores "C-)". I'm hesitant to file a bug report
because I
think I might have done something silly on my system. I'd like to
first see if
"C-)" is recognized in another application. Are there any Windows
applications
to show keypresses?
> What does that help say?
It shows the help for `paredit-forward-slurp-sexp', which is what I
expect.
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* Re: Emacs on Windows ignoring "\C-)"
2009-11-17 2:47 ` Joe
@ 2009-11-17 10:44 ` Bernardo
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From: Bernardo @ 2009-11-17 10:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
>
> Yes, "emacs -Q" also ignores "C-)". I'm hesitant to file a bug report
> because I
> think I might have done something silly on my system. I'd like to
> first see if
> "C-)" is recognized in another application. Are there any Windows
> applications
> to show keypresses?
a quick google search indicates that C-) (or Ctrl-Shift-0 in Windows
parlance) may be a shortcut for switching input language
see:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/169040
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/967893
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* Re: Emacs on Windows ignoring "\C-)"
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@ 2009-11-18 1:27 ` Joe
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From: Joe @ 2009-11-18 1:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
On Nov 17, 5:44 am, Bernardo <bernardo.ba...@pobox.com> wrote:
> a quick google search indicates that C-) (or Ctrl-Shift-0 in Windows
> parlance) may be a shortcut for switching input language
> see:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/169040
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/967893
Thanks, changing the key setting solves my problem. Didn't think to
search for ctrl-shift-0.
-joe
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