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From: ken <gebser@mousecar.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: finding the hork point in ~/.emacs
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 07:56:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7934377e-42e4-be48-3c9d-570bcda2dd12@mousecar.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83v9h3z308.fsf@gnu.org>

On 8/28/20 2:41 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: ken <gebser@mousecar.com>
>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 18:40:54 -0400
>>
>>> What additional mode is that?  How do you turn it on?
>> It's a super-old package, still in quite a bit of use, called
>> html-helper-mode.  I've come to love it a lot, way more than emacs'
>> native html editor.  I've customized it quite a bit over the years
>> also.  Today I went through the whole thing (over 2600 lines for your
>> carpal tunnel pleasure) and tested every function and definition etc.,
>> and everything worked.  And when I got to the last line, it was loaded,
>> So I opened a test.html file, used it in all kinds of ways, and
>> everything worked fine.  So I'm fairly certain that it's some other code
>> before that's invoked which is bringing about the error.
>>
>> It's turned on with this in my ~/.emacs:
>>
>> (autoload 'html-helper-mode "html-helper-mode" "Yay HTML" t)
> So if you start Emacs without that line, and then evaluate that line
> via "M-:", everything works as expected with that mode?  But if that
> line is present in your .emacs, something doesn't work well, is that
> right?  If so, what exactly doesn't work in the latter case?
>

Thanks for your continuing interest in my problem(s).  Answering your
question in another way (I believe), yesterday when html-helper-mode
wasn't operative at all, as if it wasn't loaded at all, I went into the
html-helper-mode.el file and evaluated (executed with C-x C-e at the end
of every defun and defvar etc.), none of them errored out and
html-helper-mode worked, and AFAICT worked completely.  That would seem
to eliminate it as the source of the problem, yes?

Moreover, and quite strangely, since then every time I've restarted
emacs, html-helper-mode has loaded and worked fine.  And, no, of course
I haven't made any changes to either html-helper-mode.el or to .emacs
(well, nothing at all substantive or relevant).  So that problem seems
to have magically disappeared.

However, now I'm having a very strange problem with tramp, one unrelated
to html of any kind.  I'll describe that in a separate post.  But it's
very strange how the problem seems to be bouncing around, appearing in
different parts of my unchanged code.  Is that even conceivable?  I
would think that I have a problem with some bad RAM, but emacs is the
only thing I'm having problems with, having no problem in any other
software on my system (nothing I've perceived, anyway).





  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-28 11:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-26 20:08 finding the hork point in ~/.emacs ken
2020-08-26 20:10 ` Yuan Fu
2020-08-26 20:12 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-26 22:38   ` ken
2020-08-26 23:27     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-08-26 23:39       ` ken
2020-08-27  0:23         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-08-27  4:08     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-27 17:24       ` ken
2020-08-27 17:42         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-27 22:40           ` ken
2020-08-28  6:41             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-28 11:56               ` ken [this message]
2020-08-27 17:17     ` finding the hork point in ~/.emacs: timerp ken
2020-08-27 17:34       ` Noam Postavsky
2020-08-28 10:07         ` hork point in ~/.emacs: -Q and --debug outputs in terminal & *Messages* ken
2020-08-28 11:13           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-28 12:08             ` ken
2020-08-28 12:39               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-28 13:02                 ` ken
2020-08-28 13:19                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                     ` <d4982eda-fd8a-c2fd-3342-b446d83218fc@mousecar.com>
2020-08-29 12:47                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-29 16:02                         ` hork point in ~/.emacs: needing emacs.pdmp & other ken
2020-08-29 18:13                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-29 18:59                             ` Yuri Khan
2020-08-29 19:21                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-29 21:49                             ` Togan Muftuoglu via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-08-31 11:30                             ` ken
2020-08-28 13:13                 ` hork point in ~/.emacs: -Q and --debug outputs in terminal & *Messages* ken
2020-08-28 13:21                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-27 17:41       ` finding the hork point in ~/.emacs: timerp Robert Pluim
2020-08-27 17:43         ` Noam Postavsky
2020-08-28 10:50         ` ken
2020-08-28 11:17           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-28 12:26             ` ken
2020-08-28 12:41               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-29 12:14                 ` ken
2020-08-28 12:46             ` finding the hork point in ~/.emacs -> emacs.pdmp ken
2020-08-26 20:52 ` finding the hork point in ~/.emacs Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-08-26 23:37   ` ken
2020-08-27  0:46     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2020-08-27  2:18       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-08-27  0:53 ` Carson Chittom
2020-08-27  1:42   ` Drew Adams
2020-08-27  2:27     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-08-27  2:58       ` Drew Adams
2020-08-27  4:23         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-08-27  4:57           ` Drew Adams
2020-08-27  5:06             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
     [not found]   ` <mailman.1413.1598489645.2469.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2020-08-27  1:53     ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-08-27  2:19   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-08-27  2:59     ` Drew Adams

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