From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alexandre Garreau Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: no to war in Ukraine Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2022 09:48:13 +0100 Message-ID: <7881471.gYKBhIUA9S@galex-713.eu> References: <87ee3p4xn4.fsf@zoho.eu> <3cf3a903-10fb-76e4-24f8-d2e48d045f5c@rixotstudio.cz> <7f8b6dc4-a621-2ab4-86ab-79325a1f2a0c@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16627"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 27 09:49:03 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nOFEl-00048y-Cl for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2022 09:49:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41318 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nOFEj-0002VB-Vi for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:49:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55152) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nOFE7-0002V0-To for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:48:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a00:5884:8305::1] (port=40784 helo=galex-713.eu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nOFE5-0000iQ-H9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:48:23 -0500 Original-Received: from gal by galex-713.eu with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nOFDy-00C9PI-0S for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2022 09:48:14 +0100 In-Reply-To: <7f8b6dc4-a621-2ab4-86ab-79325a1f2a0c@yandex.ru> X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a00:5884:8305::1 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:5884:8305::1; envelope-from=galex-713@galex-713.eu; helo=galex-713.eu X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:136241 Archived-At: Le diman=C4=89o, 27-a de februaro 2022, 2-a horo kaj 10:18 CET Dmitry Gutov= a =C3=A9crit : > On 27.02.2022 02:02, Jacob Hrbek wrote: >=20 >=20 > > > FOSS people saying somewhere no to war? >=20 >=20 >=20 > > I do and I've made a statement on that in > > https://qoto.org/@kreyren/107851975317924221 in short taking steps to > > reduce russian access to my software and hardware by revoking the > > right > > to use, study, improve and distribute + considering to take identity > > verification and vetting for sensitive projects such as open-source > > aircraft that could be used as a drone. >=20 > There is a lot of Free Software written by Russians that you are are > almost certainly using. Maybe not entirely but at least in part. >=20 > And not all of us support this terrible, unjust war. There are anti-war > protests all around the world, including Moscow and Saint-Petersburg. Also most of siberia (Jekaterinburg, etc.) > There are certain kinds of software that are more problematic than > others, though. For instance, face recognition software now currently > used by Russian government on its citizens was at some point written by > probably well-meaning developers. Given how quickly it has been > retargeted at protestors, I don't think it's a good idea to have *any* > country use such software. Though that ship has probably sailed. Well said, but none of that software is free, afaik (unfortunately for me, = since I suffer=20 prosopagnosia xD but anyway those software are not made to be trained, host= ed and used=20 by individuals)