From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Fieldsend Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: O'Reilly's Learning GNU Emacs Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 18:08:07 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <752279.68732.qm@web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1063099464-1267380487=:68732" X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1267396663 29060 80.91.229.12 (28 Feb 2010 22:37:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:37:43 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 28 23:37:30 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NlrlS-0004Pq-6D for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:37:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44047 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NlrlP-0005Y6-J3 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:37:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NlnYt-0002PN-MY for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:08:15 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=41792 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NlnYs-0002Oc-N1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:08:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NlnYn-0005Qr-SR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:08:14 -0500 Original-Received: from web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.86]:26322) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NlnYn-0005Qj-Kk for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:08:09 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 72094 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Feb 2010 18:08:07 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btopenworld.com; s=s1024; t=1267380487; bh=K6eCORMbL403y/khCbfqZLi2H4qrTU9YoLAUG2VUy4Q=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aZ/7KW0bOdsDqNg3fX8qjCECCoCOr5MiyfgN/L/y4n+u8YjXrzsQaTm+mphBETGOWogiEyp1910ei1mb1Uf1cs5ipGozftJXT5Wx4uQpzDZbRO2dFWgwsRhR8SFxHZxjbDeARV6JsQfk/ClF5zJJ/KV+ITWb0eynwPHlU13fwNc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=a8EglOyFvQVtiQaDpgzHJwT/QhLzuVtUvsE0SP0e/12IO570MffMzxwdybhucP4EBLLAF9zVd8DXCb14eAGyyR7Bq79aDYk+2uCkKfj/PpzJ9teBaOArKAurzOLR+pPXHca4YKzzPhcHLMDnWJ8Lpxb5av4gP7JotPfU54x2zIw=; X-YMail-OSG: iHfRLjQVM1n6Tt_PInaf6USZM6CNRDgs6tr.AXFq5azrTJR zbWuRgXXrQ5atRIN58w1BKU0VRLIEvxqdj9oFKzjEPYMH0SXkH8JU1K1Ppe_ xBb3MKkprJv_mp7fzVo1o63qGQFr_hRfkxF4LMJNyOm95l_pBQjZOcjlwe1e 6RlnwBs5Kk1_8vzhynsYKu04Nza_rCnO35RCZQMqIhgd6dX7TVRc08.9LMOn iBaOvgualY4pJhMsdd64meSr7VagkDyAa64RARLuHYaie6S_gKPFc9obthFX kndvZI9CCrkPYixxq4zOmKeFH3ctaSM2BNw-- Original-Received: from [81.147.81.154] by web86001.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 28 Feb 2010 18:08:07 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/300.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:30:40 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:72249 Archived-At: --0-1063099464-1267380487=:68732 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Tim,=0AI have both the 2nd and 3rd editions (pink cover is 3rd, 2nd gree= n) and I think that the 3rd edition is actually not as good as the 2nd. It= feels like they have opened out the functionality that they cover, but tha= t the extra content happens at the cost of poorer coverage...=0A=0AAlso, it= doesn't cover that much of the new media stuff, ie. no mention of Wiki or = Muse. If you can get hold of a 2nd edition in good nick then I'd recommend= it, otherwise a combination of the Emacs Wiki and the info pages should he= lp you in most situations...=0A=0AJust my opinion of course...=0A=0ARichard= =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Tim Visher =0ATo: emacs =0ASent: Sunday, 28 Febr= uary, 2010 15:21:04=0ASubject: O'Reilly's Learning GNU Emacs=0A=0AIs it wor= th reading if I'm comfortable reading the Info manuals,=0Aespecially consid= ering that the latest edition is 2 version old? I've=0Aheard a number of p= eople who are very comfortable with Info like Yegge=0Arecommend it anyway. = What do you all think?=0A=0A-- =0A=0AIn Christ,=0A=0ATimmy V.=0A=0Ahttp://= burningones.com/=0Ahttp://five.sentenc.es/ - Spend less time on e-mail --0-1063099464-1267380487=:68732 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Tim,
I have both the 2nd and 3rd editions (pink cov= er is 3rd, 2nd green) and I think that the 3rd edition is actually not as g= ood as the 2nd.  It feels like they have opened out the functionality = that they cover, but that the extra content happens at the cost of poorer c= overage...

Also, it doesn't cover that much of the new media stuff, = ie. no mention of Wiki or Muse.  If you can get hold of a 2nd edition = in good nick then I'd recommend it, otherwise a combination of the Emacs Wi= ki and the info pages should help you in most situations...

Just my = opinion of course...

Richard

From: Tim Visher <tim.visher@gmail.com>
To: emacs <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Sent: Sunday, 28 February, 2010 1= 5:21:04
Subject: O'Reil= ly's Learning GNU Emacs

Is it worth reading if I'm comfortabl= e reading the Info manuals,
especially considering that the latest editi= on is 2 version old?  I've
heard a number of people who are very co= mfortable with Info like Yegge
recommend it anyway.  What do you al= l think?

--

In Christ,

Timmy V.

http://burningones.com/
http://five.sentenc.es/ - Spend less time on e-mail


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