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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Dan Espen'" <despen@verizon.net>, <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: XEmacs feature missing in GNU Emacs?
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 11:23:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <726D4D8647654EAC93156C1AF605C1AF@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <icli80dmbb.fsf@home.home>

> > Isn't that the Box attribute applicable to all Emacs face, not just
> > mode-line?
> 
> It might be if I could figure out the syntax for set-face-attribute...

You don't need to.

M-x customize-face RET mode-line RET

Look at and play with `Box around text', in particular its `Style' and `Width'
settings when value `Box' is used.  `Width' is what gives you a greater or
smaller 3D effect.

Customize shows you the effect of your changes as soon as you choose `State' >
`Set for current session'.  Fiddle and set, fiddle and set.

Much easier than trying to parse the `set-face-attribute' doc or code and then
experiment with Lisp sexps.  And if you then want to see what the corresponding
Lisp looks like for the option value, choose `State' > `Show Lisp Expression'.

IMHO, too many people think that not using Customize somehow makes them heavy
Lispers, and that using Customize somehow makes them Emacs wimps or newbies.

This not to argue that the Customize UI is wonderful or particularly appealing
(ugh!).  The point is that it is your friend, and a wise Lisper takes advantage
of it.




  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-30 18:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-28 19:25 XEmacs Steven Degutis
2013-04-28 19:28 ` XEmacs James Freer
2013-04-28 21:15   ` XEmacs Glyn Millington
2013-04-28 22:28     ` XEmacs James Freer
2013-04-29  6:17       ` XEmacs glyn.millington
2013-04-29 16:21         ` XEmacs feature missing in GNU Emacs? (was: XEmacs) Bastien
2013-04-29 17:01           ` XEmacs feature missing in GNU Emacs? Christopher Schmidt
2013-04-29 17:22             ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-01 10:04               ` Christopher Schmidt
2013-04-29 17:04           ` XEmacs feature missing in GNU Emacs? (was: XEmacs) Ian van der Neut
2013-04-29 17:11             ` Ian van der Neut
2013-04-29 17:18               ` Ian van der Neut
2013-04-29 17:38                 ` XEmacs feature missing in GNU Emacs? Bastien
2013-04-29 18:47                   ` Ian van der Neut
2013-04-30  8:51                     ` Bastien
     [not found]           ` <mailman.24842.1367254876.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-04-30  9:19             ` Alan Mackenzie
     [not found]         ` <mailman.24838.1367252519.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-04-29 20:55           ` Dan Espen
2013-04-30  8:55             ` Bastien
2013-04-30 18:48               ` Glenn Morris
     [not found]               ` <mailman.24911.1367347700.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-04-30 19:35                 ` Dan Espen
2013-05-01 13:32                 ` rusi
2013-04-30 13:48             ` Tassilo Horn
     [not found]             ` <mailman.24891.1367329755.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-04-30 16:18               ` Dan Espen
2013-04-30 18:23                 ` Drew Adams [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.24910.1367346251.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-04-30 18:35                   ` Dan Espen
2013-04-30 19:57                     ` Drew Adams
2013-05-04 23:38                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-05  1:58                       ` J. David Boyd
2013-05-05  2:49                         ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.25131.1367710708.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-05  0:34                       ` Dan Espen
2013-04-30 20:02         ` XEmacs "Jérôme M. Berger"
2013-05-14  7:20         ` XEmacs Luca Ferrari
     [not found]     ` <mailman.24804.1367188121.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <kmiima$te5$1@speranza.aioe.org>
2013-05-11 19:08         ` XEmacs unfrostedpoptart
     [not found]           ` <kmohnv$9nn$1@speranza.aioe.org>
2013-05-12 21:29             ` XEmacs Emanuel Berg
2013-05-13 20:13               ` XEmacs Hils
2013-05-13 21:04                 ` XEmacs Emanuel Berg
2013-05-13 22:06                 ` XEmacs Glyn Millington
2013-05-17  1:38               ` XEmacs Emanuel Berg
2013-05-15 15:26             ` XEmacs Cecil Westerhof
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-04-30 14:01 XEmacs feature missing in GNU Emacs? (was: XEmacs) Buchs, Kevin
2013-04-30 16:03 ` XEmacs feature missing in GNU Emacs? Glenn Morris

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