From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alexandre Oberlin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Replacing huge hidden selection when pasting text Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2016 16:11:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <70837df3-23f5-416b-8e0a-b9f105f7a40c@googlegroups.com> References: <5da6a556-646f-42ba-9bae-f5bf4387f09e@googlegroups.com> <84da4496-944e-4192-ac09-b5bfc0992f3f@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451780122 2027 80.91.229.3 (3 Jan 2016 00:15:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 00:15:22 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 03 01:15:22 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aFWKN-0002OD-Pc for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2016 01:15:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40130 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFWKN-0001Vu-1z for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2016 19:15:19 -0500 X-Received: by 10.98.44.73 with SMTP id s70mr65112246pfs.0.1451779872349; Sat, 02 Jan 2016 16:11:12 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.50.3.73 with SMTP id a9mr394290iga.9.1451779872319; Sat, 02 Jan 2016 16:11:12 -0800 (PST) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!mv3no24718406igc.0!news-out.google.com!f6ni41358igq.0!nntp.google.com!mv3no17357198igc.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=151.57.18.113; posting-account=IWjTFQoAAAAFS3md63aQJ_ttNKJFTj1L Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 151.57.18.113 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2016 00:11:12 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:216293 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:108583 Archived-At: On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 12:05:17 AM UTC+1, Drew Adams wrote: > Apologies for not following this thread. But offhand I'd say that > there's your problem right there: you enable `delete-selection-mode' > but you disable `transient-mark-mode'. That should be a no-no. Oh my dear, I managed to hit a no-no! But if it's a no-no why is it possibl= e in the first place? Why ain't there a single warning? Where are emacs's n= o-nos listed? Where is the checkbox and message saying "I agree not to do a= ny emacs no-no, even if I don't know what they are"? Are you serious? You can't ask all Emacs users to be expert in its ever changing configurati= on rules. Don't you think they might have some other work to do? Enabling d= elete-selection-mode and disabling transient-mark-mode is nothing more than= what an average user unsatisfied with the default behavior would try at fi= rst in order to get a "Windows notepad" like behavior regarding selection a= nd overwriting. This is not rocket science is it?=20 However, I must repeat that the problem is not really here, since the progr= am often functions correctly with the above settings. All I can conclude by= now is that all users of Emacs today must be aware of an unpublished list = of no-nos which allow the program to function erratically.=20 I am sure you will gain loads of Windows users with that kind of philosophy= .