From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: if vs. when vs. and: style question Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 16:21:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6d6fd886-399a-4283-ae80-5be238a952c5@default> References: <87sicvwckx.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl> <87wq27yvqg.fsf@debian.uxu> <8d531e99-7260-4263-ac99-09c6871e2708@googlegroups.com> <87vbhq53lf.fsf@debian.uxu> <87a8z23p23.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87lhilx0cf.fsf@debian.uxu> <87twx9360u.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <0d1d19ab-06e9-462d-8867-9a49b1e232d3@googlegroups.com> <87lhil2io1.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87d23w3mzu.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <20150325222113.6ef43ce0@JRWUBU2> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1427325726 9158 80.91.229.3 (25 Mar 2015 23:22:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 23:22:06 +0000 (UTC) To: Richard Wordingham , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 26 00:21:54 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YaucN-0001cb-RL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Mar 2015 00:21:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41761 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YaucN-0004Vp-5D for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 19:21:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51194) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YaucB-0004VZ-2g for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 19:21:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yauc7-00006i-QZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 19:21:35 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:32785) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yauc7-00006X-JZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 19:21:31 -0400 Original-Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t2PNLUtS002687 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 25 Mar 2015 23:21:30 GMT Original-Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t2PNLTBp002797 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 25 Mar 2015 23:21:30 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0018.oracle.com (abhmp0018.oracle.com [141.146.116.24]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t2PNLTg5017808; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 23:21:29 GMT In-Reply-To: <20150325222113.6ef43ce0@JRWUBU2> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:103346 Archived-At: > > (Yeah, in the case of the euro sign, `M-x eu TAB RET' is not > > a lot better than `C-x 8 RET euro SPC SPC RET'. But in the > > case of GREEK SMALL LETTER EPSILON WITH OXIA it might help > > to have a dedicated key, should you happen to use that a lot.) >=20 > -x ucs-igreesmlep wo > works quite well if you don't use it very often. OK. And C-x 8 RET works the same as ESC x ucs-i TAB RET. But I guess your point is that the former is not an easy key sequence to type. (The latter is easy, but long.) In that case, I'd suggest binding it to something simpler. > I shall miss the shorthand of ucs-i when ucs-insert is fully replaced > by insert-char. Just defalias it yourself: (defalias 'ucs-insert 'insert-char). > One of the issues with using the full set of Unicode characters is that > many are easily misread when there are no constraints. Many Greek > capitals look just like Roman capitals, and Latin 'o', Greek '=CE=BF' and > Cyrillic '=D0=BE' may be indistinguishable. This is not a good idea for > writing code. +1 for that.