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([2a02:2168:2634:7100:e094:f8b4:8e10:960d]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b67-v6sm2528993lfh.26.2018.04.07.05.38.52 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 07 Apr 2018 05:38:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: Nikolay Kudryavtsev In-Reply-To: <834lkn1ptu.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c07::231 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:116390 Archived-At: While I agree about the lack of upstream communication, I don't see the situation changing any time soon, nor them dying. One reason is (understandably) slow pace of upstream development, and for kit devs it's often much easier to provide a patch downstream, since upstream fix may not be coming until one or more major versions. Spacemacs seems to have "should report upstream" tag on their bug tracker: https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs/labels/Should%20report%20upstream But they do not seem to separate package upstreams, from the main Emacs upstream. -- Best Regards, Nikolay Kudryavtsev