From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Dyballa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: replacing characters and whacky trans-buffer conversion Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 10:59:31 +0100 Message-ID: <6CE33B76-B37F-47A2-8193-D90640B6073D@Web.DE> References: <45ED8574.3040201@speakeasy.net> <266B0820-DD96-45C5-96B7-B564953313B9@Web.DE> <45EE6C07.3030600@gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1173261900 4722 80.91.229.12 (7 Mar 2007 10:05:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 10:05:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs To: Matthew Flaschen Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 07 11:04:54 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HOt0v-0003tD-AB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:04:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOt0z-0003mT-9a for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 05:04:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HOszI-0003Vu-5B for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 05:03:12 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HOszF-0003Uw-M0 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 05:03:11 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HOszD-0003Ui-Sw for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 05:03:08 -0500 Original-Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de ([217.72.192.221]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HOsz8-0001li-6Q for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 05:03:02 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp05.web.de (fmsmtp05.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.4.166]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C8168D67E0; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 10:59:35 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [62.134.229.20] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by smtp05.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (WEB.DE 4.107 #114) id 1HOsvn-0001hk-00; Wed, 07 Mar 2007 10:59:35 +0100 In-Reply-To: <45EE6C07.3030600@gatech.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Sender: Peter_Dyballa@web.de X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:41745 Archived-At: Am 07.03.2007 um 08:38 schrieb Matthew Flaschen: > Peter Dyballa wrote: >> A malfunction in >> GNOME? (At least I had once such problems in Fedora Core 1.) >> > FWIW, I'm running Thunderbird and emacs 21.4 on gnewsense-kde and have > the same behavior. > Then it looks more like a malfunction in Thunderbird ... Ken, the original poster, is using Thunderbird 2.0pre (X11/20070214), =20= you are using Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070104) =96 or you need to =20 tell Thunderbird that you are composing in UTF-8. I think in this =20 millennium the modern Linuxen use UTF-8 internally, and when a =20 client, such as Thunderbird, claims to be UTF-8 aware, then the X =20 selection is not converted =96 which would be Thunderbird's task, =20 because it's Thunderbird who "knows" which encodings are used inside =20 its "buffers." (I found Thunderbird a bit troublesome in its way to handle =20 encodings. If I would use it more often than once in a month I would =20 have written a few bug reports.) -- Greetings Pete When confronted with actual numbers, a mathematician is at a loss. (Steffen Hokland)