From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Dyballa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: C-/ and C-( not recognized in Terminal on Mac? Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:33:41 +0100 Message-ID: <6AF52276-DC56-4DE5-9372-8F7A9E03F348@Web.DE> References: <70b76d3d-f223-469b-b37b-3dad64be431d@e67g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <922234F4-EF96-4EDE-9E4B-32E7B45213AC@gmail.com> <944364AF-7187-46A2-8379-DEB5743D824B@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1196415290 21700 80.91.229.12 (30 Nov 2007 09:34:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:34:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs list To: prestowk@gmail.com Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 30 10:34:59 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Iy2Gx-0000vx-7M for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:34:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iy2Gh-0007Om-9z for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 04:34:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Iy2GG-0007NE-J2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 04:34:16 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Iy2GF-0007L1-Cp for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 04:34:15 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iy2GF-0007Kf-4k for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 04:34:15 -0500 Original-Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de ([217.72.192.227]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Iy2GE-0005s1-ND for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 04:34:14 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp06.web.de (fmsmtp06.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.172]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30DDB38D05C; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:33:45 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [195.4.204.152] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by smtp06.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1Iy2Fj-0006Kh-00; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:33:43 +0100 In-Reply-To: <944364AF-7187-46A2-8379-DEB5743D824B@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Sender: Peter_Dyballa@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19Ck4hmFiurFy7E2aULVGJmRJJFDIDrtha+t2qv L6tknDq2wN+5xewa0unAtpQLzkJUP0NJJa4KcZjOICpJdpBD/a jFXIInSxOSSfLptTXPPA== X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:49718 Archived-At: Am 30.11.2007 um 01:11 schrieb prestowk: > > On 30 Nov 2007, at 03:04, prestowk wrote: > >> On 30 Nov 2007, at 02:51, Peter Dyballa wrote: >>> > >>> Try Apple Bug Reporter: https://bugreport.apple.com/cgi-bin/=20 >>> WebObjects/RadarWeb.woa >> >> I will do that. However, do you have any information that would be =20= >> useful to add in the report, such as a motivation why the current =20 >> behavior should be fixed? Is Terminal's behavior just plain wrong, =20= >> or have they made a political decision/interpretation of some =20 >> standard? I hope making the report as technically informative and =20 >> convincing as possible increases the chance of this getting fixed. > > Addition: For example, is there a standard/specification that I =20 > could refer to that says (or at least does not prohibit) that =20 > functionality? Maybe VT100 or something like that. Also, are there =20 > other terminal emulators in which this works that I could compare =20 > with? You seem to be sure of the nature of this issue, so I'm =20 > asking for whatever useful information you might have. I never investigated which terminal emulation works better, I simply =20 accepted the fact that terminal emulations do not support or allow =20 all possible control- combinations =96 maybe it's =20 because in ASCII there are just 32 control characters defined? I =20 always thought I am more clever and use GNU Emacs as X client =96 where =20= a lot more synthetic keyboard key events are possible. -- Greetings Pete In a world without walls and fences, who needs gates and windows?