From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniele Nicolodi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.orgmode,gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Microsoft Excel spreadsheet editing directly from within emacs. Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 20:55:34 +0100 Message-ID: <69f2606a-105d-75e8-61aa-e4df82c9f445@grinta.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2522"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0 To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Org-mode Original-X-From: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 28 20:56:03 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geo-emacs-orgmode@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ktycd-0000Xw-7N for geo-emacs-orgmode@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 20:56:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42176 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ktycc-00012h-9j for geo-emacs-orgmode@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 14:56:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49042) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ktycJ-00012T-4M; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 14:55:43 -0500 Original-Received: from grinta.net ([109.74.203.128]:34214) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ktycF-0005xa-TM; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 14:55:42 -0500 Original-Received: from black.local (p4fe7185a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.231.24.90]) (Authenticated sender: daniele) by grinta.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5B2BEE0F23; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 19:55:36 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=grinta.net; s=2020; t=1609185336; bh=f6iQEUrPR4dujN3ktpOv1mipwAFd8WvmFNFu3mV/JgU=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=kr0mkSZZwazH823rBs/YJ3mY3YDuL92swUS0lFtbDEtncfsy6B3emRLQw6qKXBuHf xBd9DMFjGvXxtzdaUGj2o66bnbgy+7VtsfSsIM6yrCPaTiH8DQyILv2/ZFTEE1Ee9t GyBIGgoJ2WVbPvcl7nQnUDOQk2T/cLxwlB1dviSCOjHFXgbVmso4Pbt8VwLAh3dAdj uTop99xJ8ecl6Fz5ObaB79bCx4JxVGn3cjjRn1jqqRya7uat5ytGNQZUcsShwAkHza pqWj9BypROmXJ6fiGHKmIorMYPz+Fx05+dWblTikhDHjocHNu1IelXKm8kI/Zr5XxE SnhGMybkUzvuA== In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Received-SPF: pass client-ip=109.74.203.128; envelope-from=daniele@grinta.net; helo=grinta.net X-Spam_score_int: -47 X-Spam_score: -4.8 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-2.698, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.orgmode:134231 gmane.emacs.help:126878 Archived-At: On 28/12/2020 20:36, Jean Louis wrote: > * Hongyi Zhao [2020-12-28 18:19]: >> Is it possible for me to edit Microsoft Excel spreadsheet directly >> from within emacs, especially utilizing the powerful capabilities of >> orgmode? > > You have high expectations but Emacs Org mode does not nearly replace > the capabilities of a dedicated spreadsheet. > > In comparison to all major known spreadsheets Org tables is not > powerful and not even comparable. Without specific details on which functionalities are not supported in Org tables, this advice is not useful. There are many use cases in which Org tables are superiors to spreadsheets, there are use cases where a dedicated spreadsheet application works better, and there are use cases where a spreadsheet is an horrible solution but whoever found themselves solving the problem didn't know better and hammered around till they got a spreadsheet to output what they wanted. In my personal experience, in the 80% of the cases where a spreadsheet has been used, it was the wrong tool for the job. Without knowing what is the problem at hand, it is impossible to know which solution is the more appropriate. Cheers, Dan