From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Dyballa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: font handling broken in cvs emacs --with-ns (MacOS X) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 00:28:38 +0100 Message-ID: <6821EA4D-AA06-465A-9A59-E134E992C5F1@web.de> References: <28c656e20901041028m522f3e0eva3a6b9918ddd035d@mail.gmail.com> <62131EE9-6999-42CA-A9E6-F53B41768586@Web.DE> <28c656e20901041422l5d9d7132wb67771ba5f516de1@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1231111760 11595 80.91.229.12 (4 Jan 2009 23:29:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 23:29:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: "B Smith-Mannschott" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 05 00:30:28 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LJcQM-0003Eb-W9 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 00:30:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37093 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LJcP7-0002LK-Q9 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:29:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LJcOp-0002Iw-Vu for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:28:52 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LJcOn-0002GP-V7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:28:51 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41496 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LJcOn-0002GJ-SJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:28:49 -0500 Original-Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de ([217.72.192.227]:55753) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LJcOm-0006SR-Cm for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:28:48 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp08.web.de (fmsmtp08.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.216]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C187EF884D93; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 00:28:41 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [91.35.189.121] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by smtp08.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (WEB.DE 4.110 #273) id 1LJcOf-0004X9-00; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 00:28:41 +0100 In-Reply-To: <28c656e20901041422l5d9d7132wb67771ba5f516de1@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Sender: Peter_Dyballa@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX191idx4TwE4mSvjCh3J8JewCGNwxpRgFICnvs2D mvx9leWj2CJXYZba/Z+M7NbQz41YhBVEZBEPlPELD+h0HtUWaK XX1af4b17ld1Ia6n4CXw== X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:61061 Archived-At: Am 04.01.2009 um 23:22 schrieb B Smith-Mannschott: >> Documentation clearly states that after an update you need to do a =20= >> 'make >> bootstrap' unless you wish to have a GNU mess. >> >>> make install > > I do it this way because it works. If your way would work, then you would not need to consider writing a =20= bug report ... > And I don't need the build to be fast. A bootstrap built build is not faster =96 it just has up-to-date ELC =20 files. > It would be different if I were hacking on emacs myself because > the long edit-compile-run cycle would be terrible. There are experienced GNU Emacs developers who take that burden from =20 you! And this makes the difference: you're not using the stable GNU =20 Emacs 22.3 (also in Carbon available) but the not yet released GNU =20 Emacs 23.0.60 *from CVS*. And therefore building it needs 'make =20 bootstrap.' > I found the reference to make bootstrap in INSTALL.CVS (thanks grep). > I had been reading INSTALL, which doesn't breathe a word of it. > Scrubbing the source directory seems to force a make bootstrap, which > is good. If I find I need emacs to build faster, then I'll look into > INSTALL.CVS more carefully. You're mixing up a few things! In a regular and stable GNU Emacs =20 release you won't see the INSTALL.CVS file. Does this help? >> You don't need that Carbon stuff! Just choose from the Options =20 >> menu "Set >> Default Font=85"! Isn't it clearly documented? > > I may have missed it among emacs' *1.9 million words* of =20 > documentation. ;-) Well, maybe you came too late to Emacs.app, because some weeks ago it =20= has lost from the Help menu an entry to read the part on Emacs.app. =20 Right now you can easily find in the Emacs node one on * Mac OS / GNUstep:: Using Emacs under Mac OS and GNUstep. > > Is all that gets written. still, it's obviously storing the setting > somewhere, because the change I made is maintained across restarts of > emacs... > > ~/Library/Preferences/org.gnu.Emacs.plist > > Fascinating. I see a lot of other stuff here too. settings for > org-mode, for example. Does Emacs.app write all customizations here > instead of custom.el? I don't think so. Only its "options" are saved in this XML file. (The =20= defaults command or Property List Editor also work on this file.) > How will that jive with my attempts to keep a > single emacs configuration (in version control) across my Mac and > Linux machines? Well, I make most of my changes into a *system* of init files. =46rom =20= ~/.emacs particular init and customisation files are read, mostly =20 depending on emacs-major-number and window-system. -- Greetings Pete What is this talk of 'release?' Klingons do not make software =20 'releases.' Our software 'escapes,' leaving a bloody trail of =20 designers and quality assurance people in its wake.