From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: ken Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: non-functioning abbrev mode Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 19:36:56 -0500 Message-ID: <662b424d-1678-536b-379b-760e5396f014@mousecar.com> References: <837e1w795a.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: gebser@mousecar.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="44073"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.2 To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 24 01:37:19 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iumyM-000BL6-V6 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 01:37:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35838 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iumyM-0005zT-2Z for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 19:37:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42716) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iumy4-0005zK-UP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 19:37:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iumy3-0004fW-Sp for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 19:37:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.197]:37859) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iumy3-0004cU-NA for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 19:36:59 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.168.0.17] ([96.27.75.237]) by mrelay.perfora.net (mreueus004 [74.208.5.2]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MhCdq-1jXxXc05ti-00eQ5p for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 01:36:58 +0100 In-Reply-To: <837e1w795a.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Makk/TCnSOjb6vgB35JbJWspMr1obuccg+3xtlS/YOhUx4H6eW8 GB8jpM5dOkKfD73eZULP+l27tz+/ySwJRve3Qxg2soZ9WNod+yKHAFOw30tOjjXNMc3brSA DONX+5fKxQXwipcs3lk9NBgOSG/Ne6XSvjfA/4aaPy0BzEvhkjQTkB5Rl1kO7UBqXTtZuWZ 8KL7fj3TllEG/U6heHWxA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:Oe1ClHYuDBw=:AYHEZoxXjp/Tf6i3Ia3yq2 1+DZllGOE5mUBNalFNXxe9BE0kzioYjU6CdtIbJb5Qm0lGUlSDdgrMW3B02k9Pp5s+9C6w1Ru SDcoeoSIgRIWk2WPS9hxEPCKpF0wJJQHE2/RNOtYDamNe0w/55safZD/6TxpjmT8KWCr/1SH7 mU759NY7wbpQpoyQj3VDy5ZAbSE2c7Sjd2QrmbOZvj84tZ0M/WTxPhKbWDLwSGAHben1XPyq3 FFTqkzmD1Y9+9SlZEzxpeoUlOGiZPpmpQWrFbXsn0rSzh4UKussSC2blrG53A2/sHF0GZU2cU Mbn/vcqvJnbdJzxoxGWRE1jnC7XsmQILdwtBrQHnXjlHSCLONagKSFmBhvj9Bq+iVpimb1OPQ 6tuGmbbzzafIQEZd/8W9V+8lRIjIRcHAbyzIolOU3RE6qpkPoKJmeXYKkXHGkYgsbJd6jqA6i X1Er3aZt4kxI7jY5X1SAmJ34WysEIHVZWCuH5sztNvomW5pp6yN72jOHxxnYR4vlkUWzcgCIY 8zDeCrhwK96xDq+/YEC2WWy/fhSGbgMBtmw2hI5fOLkTGpnqJcMHt8kXxoZOaFyawPQ//EEKX 8KMHfBKGAjHBPcWmA/wnGqfVT7WkqF/8a9f4ucs1TVwGRVUquRudOIPCSC6SsdHubJe217LlA PITtjY8WIYK7SgvWi90+RLCDw4uqZ744yZwaFNcRJKmGYSIXKPEGm2DpqyWbfv2frXS9iC9Tw PBc/GKmOUC6dmEHYPlfrku5+1Mbc8bhOpRDWXACxrljg++JZTWDoNED+LcVgNF+RJ1F8JVOU X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 74.208.4.197 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:122281 Archived-At: On 1/12/20 2:43 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: ken >> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 14:20:04 -0500 >> >> It must be twenty years now that I've been using abbrev mode, never with >> a problem.  But a few days ago it ceased working.  For instance, one >> common abbrev "wtih" is automatically replaced by "with".  This has >> always worked fine.  But now, although it says "Abbrev" on the status >> line, nothing happens when I type "wtih". > Crystal ball says your abbrev_defs file disappeared or got corrupted. Your crystal ball works pretty good.  I don't know how it might have gotten corrupted, but when I swapped in a backup, normality returned.  Thanks for the prognostication. >> Perhaps a related problem, the "abbrev-save" function appears to no >> longer exist. > There was never such a function in Emacs, AFAICT. Maybe it's > something you defined in your init files? There's a _variable_ named > save-abbrevs, though. Yeah, I must have been thinking twenty or thirty years back in ancient emacs history.  What I was looking for was write-abbrevs... and it works.