From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: Why doesn't Emacs have a horizontal scroll bar? 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Thread-Index: Ace9WPVRF10FmchtRXmDqut9/77bEwAF071A X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jul 2007 12:55:50.0430 (UTC) FILETIME=[7B802BE0:01C7BD71] X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-7.0.0.1345-3.6.1039-15232.002 X-TM-AS-Result: No--9.125400-8.000000-31 X-detected-kernel: Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1+ X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:45441 Archived-At: Thanks all. I tried "scroll-left" and "scroll-right" today, and found (scroll-left = 1) and (scroll-right 1) [or "c-u 1 c-x <" and "c-u 1 c-x >] work for me = (e.g., review the sdelta files). I think I will add quick key-bindings = for them.=20 But I still think a horizontal bar can be very useful. Maybe many emacs = experts don't use mouse at all :) But for many people, mouse is very = convenient for some tasks. Also, I think "Truncate long lines in this buffer" is good enough too. = It is not "word wrap". It truncate the words at any position (e.g., = "words" can be truncate to "wo" in current line and "ords" in the next = line.) It is really make the text difficult to read. Any solution for = this? (auto-fill can wrap the text in a word basis, but 1). It doesn't = wrap the word based on the window width, 2). It will modify the file = while we don't want to change anything.) Regards, Brian=20 -----Original Message----- From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+brianjiang=3Dgdnt.com.cn@gnu.org = [mailto:help-gnu-emacs-bounces+brianjiang=3Dgdnt.com.cn@gnu.org] On = Behalf Of Mathias Dahl Sent: 2007=C4=EA7=D4=C23=C8=D5 15:37 To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Re: Why doesn't Emacs have a horizontal scroll bar? writes: > Why doesn't Emacs have a horizontal scroll bar?=20 Probably because noone needed it so much that he/she decided to = implement it. > Sometimes I have to use other editor to edit something just because=20 > emacs has not horizontal scroll bar and it is not very convenient to=20 > do some tasks. When I started using Emacs I also thought I needed a horizontal scroll = bar, but in reality I have never needed one. I either use `scroll-left' = and `scroll-right' (I use the Ctrl + PageDown and Ctrl + Page Up = keybindings) when text is truncated or I let the text be wrapped. Have you tried `scroll-left' and `scroll-right'? Does it not work for = you? If so, what are the use cases where you would need a horizontal = scroll bar? _______________________________________________ help-gnu-emacs mailing list help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs