From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xah Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: line-move-visual? Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:12:34 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <6271f663-7bc2-46fd-8676-105a09b4aa55@f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1224711653 29882 80.91.229.12 (22 Oct 2008 21:40:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:40:53 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 22 23:41:54 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KslSh-0001xk-6U for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:41:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33650 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KslRb-0000O8-KA for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:40:43 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs Original-Lines: 32 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.6.185.159 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1224709955 23092 127.0.0.1 (22 Oct 2008 21:12:35 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:12:35 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com; posting-host=24.6.185.159; posting-account=bRPKjQoAAACxZsR8_VPXCX27T2YcsyMA User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10_4_11; en) AppleWebKit/525.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.2 Safari/525.22, gzip(gfe), gzip(gfe) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:163707 comp.emacs:97250 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:59048 Archived-At: On Oct 22, 1:24 pm, Leo wrote: > Hi there, > > It looks the change that C-n and C-p now move by screen lines are pretty > big. Any idea why this has been set as default? What's the user case for > this? Do you mean to say that in the dev version of emacs, now up/down arrow key moves the cursor by a screen line instead of moving by EOL char? Hurray! One critical emacs modernization down, few more to go! http://xahlee.org/emacs/modernization.html ----------------- as answer to your question, moving by screen line is more natural, and is the behavior by all modern software. I don't know if this is how emacs developers felt when the change is made, but probably similar. the moving by screen line is a frequently requested feature, poping up every couple of months in gnu.emacs.help or comp.emacs. ------------------ btw, what's the behavior of kill-line? Does it do screen line or EOL line? Xah =E2=88=91 http://xahlee.org/ =E2=98=84