From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Robert Thorpe <rt@robertthorpeconsulting.com>,
Raffaele Ricciardi <rfflrccrd@gmail.com>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: RE: When do you prefer frames instead of windows?
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 20:21:51 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <602f48d7-f767-43d6-8c91-456b582bbc6b@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a93g1305.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com>
> Modern X Windows environments have keybindings for common operations
> on frames. However, Microsoft Windows only has a few of those, to
> tiresome switching between the keyboard and mouse is needed. I use
> both X and MS Windows daily. I generally prefer using Emacs windows
> rather than frames becuase they can be manipulated using the keyboard
> on all platforms.
It should be possible, out of the box, to do that in Emacs itself.
One set of keys for all platforms, and any set of keys you yourself
choose.
I wrote:
> With Emacs this is even better, as you can manipulate frames
> using the keyboard, not just the mouse.
>
> However, out of the box, support for using Emacs frames is pretty
> primitive. So I jump through a bunch of configuration hooks to
> be able to use them easily (including keyboard manipulation).
You need to be able to do the same kinds of things with frames
that you can do with Emacs windows - *from the keyboard* (and with
a mouse). Including move around incrementally, resize incrementally,
cycle/choose, tile/split, and so on.
I use Emacs that way, but as I say, this is not provided out of the
box with `emacs -Q'. (It should be, IMO.)
I really would be interested in people's answers to my question, BTW:
> IF you could use Emacs frames as easily as you can use Emacs
> windows, in what scenarios would you prefer using Emacs windows,
> and why?
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2014-11-24 16:40 When do you prefer frames instead of windows? Raffaele Ricciardi
2014-11-24 17:20 ` Drew Adams
2014-11-25 8:03 ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2014-11-25 15:46 ` Drew Adams
2014-11-25 15:54 ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2014-11-25 8:33 ` When do you prefer windows instead of frames? Was: " H. Dieter Wilhelm
2014-11-25 15:46 ` Drew Adams
2014-11-25 18:40 ` MBR
2014-11-25 18:52 ` Drew Adams
2014-11-26 2:31 ` Yuri Khan
2014-12-19 16:08 ` Jude DaShiell
2014-11-25 8:52 ` Rainer M Krug
2014-11-24 19:10 ` MBR
2014-11-24 19:14 ` Drew Adams
2014-11-24 22:12 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
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2014-11-25 0:59 ` Barry Margolin
2014-11-25 1:29 ` Robert Thorpe
2014-11-25 4:21 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2014-11-25 8:54 ` Rainer M Krug
2014-11-25 15:47 ` Drew Adams
2014-11-25 1:45 ` Yuri Khan
2014-11-25 9:27 ` Ralf Fassel
2014-11-25 15:47 ` Drew Adams
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2014-11-25 15:57 ` Ralf Fassel
2014-11-25 16:57 ` Drew Adams
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2014-11-25 17:16 ` Ralf Fassel
2014-11-25 18:09 ` Drew Adams
2014-11-25 22:08 ` Subhan Michael Tindall
2014-11-25 22:22 ` Drew Adams
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2014-11-26 9:34 ` Joost Kremers
2014-11-25 22:02 ` Subhan Michael Tindall
2014-11-26 5:02 ` Yuri Khan
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2014-11-24 17:47 ` Barry Margolin
2014-11-24 18:06 ` Jai Dayal
2014-11-25 17:32 ` Joost Kremers
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2014-11-25 18:09 ` Drew Adams
2014-11-25 22:28 ` Bob Proulx
2014-11-25 22:54 ` Drew Adams
2014-11-26 8:12 ` Alan Schmitt
2014-11-26 13:42 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2014-11-28 13:51 ` Tom Davey
2014-11-28 15:39 ` Drew Adams
2014-11-26 16:37 ` Ken Goldman
2014-11-27 21:02 ` Chris F.A. Johnson
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2020-11-01 16:08 bounds-of-thing-at-point for paragraphs Christopher Dimech
2020-11-01 18:22 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-01 18:34 ` Christopher Dimech
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2020-11-01 18:52 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-01 19:00 ` Drew Adams
2020-11-01 20:07 ` Christopher Dimech
2020-11-01 22:06 ` Drew Adams
2020-11-01 22:36 ` Christopher Dimech
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2020-11-01 22:52 ` Drew Adams
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2020-11-03 16:07 ` Drew Adams
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2020-11-07 1:26 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-02 6:07 ` finder-commentary Jean Louis
2020-11-02 15:48 ` finder-commentary Drew Adams
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2020-11-02 17:27 ` finder-commentary Drew Adams
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2020-11-01 20:36 ` Jean Louis
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2020-11-01 20:29 ` Christopher Dimech
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2018-12-04 9:04 ` using setq to create lists based on other lists Barry Margolin
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2018-12-05 1:07 ` Robert Thorpe
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2018-12-05 6:45 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-12-05 8:00 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-12-05 8:11 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
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2016-08-03 14:42 ` Drew Adams
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2016-08-03 19:39 ` Drew Adams
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2016-08-03 22:06 ` Drew Adams
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2016-05-16 21:14 ` xiongtk
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2016-05-18 2:21 ` Emanuel Berg
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