From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stefan Monnier " Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: MULE shows gibberish; now what? Date: 03 Oct 2002 12:12:56 -0400 Organization: Yale University Sender: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <5lzntvijqv.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> References: <5lwup7kw31.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1033668481 2424 127.0.0.1 (3 Oct 2002 18:08:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 18:08:01 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17xAOF-0000cy-00 for ; Thu, 03 Oct 2002 20:07:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17xAOZ-0005K3-00; Thu, 03 Oct 2002 14:08:19 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!news.ycc.yale.edu!rum.cs.yale.edu!rum.cs.yale.edu Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 38 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: rum.cs.yale.edu User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: rum.cs.yale.edu X-Original-Trace: 3 Oct 2002 12:12:57 -0400, rum.cs.yale.edu Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:105676 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:2194 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:2194 >> >> > font: -Cronyx-Fixed-Medium-R-Normal--15-140-75-75-C-90-RAWIN-R >> [...] >> > ??? I do not use that font. How many times should I repeat that tt >> > is *Emacs* who choses this font? My resources for fonts are >> >> But there is no `cronyx' or `rawin-r' anywhere in the code of Emacs, so it >> must get some "help" from somewhere in order to choose this font. >> Normally for charset it looks for fonts with names of the form >> *-...-*-*-, so there has to be something somewhere that tells Emacs to >> use `rawin-r'. > "Something else" does not help. What can it be? I posted the > relevant parts of 'xrdb -query | grep -i font'. What else? I don't know what else. I assume you're using `emacs -q --no-site-file' right ? I've seen you mention --no-init-file (aka `-q') but not --no-site-file. Could there be some global config in site-start.el or default.el ? Or does this Emacs come from some RPM or some other such package where the packagers might have changed the default ? > Font or fontset: -misc-fixed-bold-*-*-*-*-140-75-75-*-*-*-1 As specified in the Xresources: looks sane. > cyrillic-iso8859-5 -*-*-*-iso8859-5 > [-Cronyx-Fixed-Medium-R-Normal--15-140-75-75-C-90-RAWIN-R] This is odd. Maybe the other poster (can't remember who it was) was right: your Xserver has a weird font setup with an alias from -iso8859-5 to -Cronyx-Fixed-Medium-R-Normal--15-140-75-75-C-90-RAWIN-R. Can you try to look for RAWIN in the output of something like xlsfonts -ll -fn '*-iso8859-5' -- Stefan